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Strange 1x fast forward issue since 9.4 update

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by vittoria, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. Sep 8, 2008 #21 of 150
    rokicki

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    I also just noticed the problem today for the first time while watching an NFL football game in HD on CBS. I have a Tivo HD with a single multistream Motorola cable card. I was using closed captioning if it matters, and a different HD program was being recorded while I was watching the game. First time I've seen something like this (and I use FF-1 a lot). It was kind of frustrating.
     
  2. Sep 8, 2008 #22 of 150
    worachj

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    I have the same problem with the Big 10 network, using an S3.
     
  3. Sep 8, 2008 #23 of 150
    GregComeLately

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    The problem occurred again last night for the Bears/Colts game on NBC via OTA HD, and continued on for after the game for my local NBC affiliate programming.
     
  4. Sep 9, 2008 #24 of 150
    NJP11

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    What does everyone think is the best way to present this problem to Tivo?
     
  5. Sep 9, 2008 #25 of 150
    mattack

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    Call up Tivo and describe the problem. Unfortunately, there is no official bug reporting system, and they don't seem interested in putting one up.
     
  6. Sep 21, 2008 #26 of 150
    rclams2

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    Folks,

    My 1X FF Is broken, too. We're on Comcast Digital Cable (SF Bay Area) and have a Series 3 HD TiVo.

    Bugs the heck out of me, as I used to watch lots of golf at 1X, using 3X for commercials and Play for great shots/putts.

    Dang it, TiVo, get the bugs out!

    :(
     
  7. Sep 21, 2008 #27 of 150
    Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

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    FWIW, I have the two DirecTV HD TiVo HR10-250 units and they both behave the same inconsistent way using 1X FF as folks are describing here for the TiVo HD and S3. In my case, there is no analog tuner, everything coming in is either digital OTA or digital from DirecTV satellites, including analog channels that are digitized by DirecTV for satellite transmission. Thus, there are no A->D converters in these units.

    Just another data point to consider ...
     
  8. Sep 21, 2008 #28 of 150
    NJP11

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    I've only noticed the problem on broadcast channels even though they are coming over Cox cable. I'm going to trying hooking up a regular antennae later today and see if I have the same problem
     
  9. Sep 21, 2008 #29 of 150
    friscoaggie

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    Noticed this for the first time today. My Series 3 only receives over the air programming. I am currently seeing it watching the Cowboys Packers game, but saw it earlier today as I was trying to catch up on the Nascar race. Quite annoying as 2x is too fast to actually see what's going on.

    Basically it only mutes the sound, occasionally it will speed up.
     
  10. Sep 22, 2008 #30 of 150
    Poochie

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    Add me to the list of those who are seeing strange 1x FF speed behavior.

    I definitely noticed it watching the Cowboys/Packers SNF game. KNTV-HD from Comcast in the SF Bay Area. Running 9.4 on the S3 with 2 Mot S-cards. I recently expanded the S3 with a 1TB WD10EVCS, but given the reports above I doubt that's the reason. 2x and 3x FF (and 30-second-skip) all work reasonably. 1x FF runs somewhere near real-time.

    I don't recall seeing this with other football games I watched Sunday (Niners on KTVU-HD or 'da Raidas' on CBS-HD), but wouldn't swear that it wasn't there either - I was using 30-second-skip mostly there. If I remember tonight I'll try to see what the 1xFF behavior is for SD digital channels as well as some other HD channels - I can't test analogs as the "analog" channels are all coming in as digital for us due to ADS.
     
  11. Sep 22, 2008 #31 of 150
    FiosUser

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    This is definately a problem with the content being watched.

    I've only had this happen 2 times in my life. Both times were on the USA Men's Basketball games on NBC during this past olympics.

    Haven't seen it since then.

    It is very bad though when it is happening.
     
  12. Sep 23, 2008 #32 of 150
    Poochie

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    Quick update. I did NOT see the "slow 1x FF" problem last night, watching programs on ESPN-HD, KTVU HD (Fox), or FX (digital SD). I forgot to re-check KNTV-HD (NBC) to see if it was program-specific or a problem with NBC in general.

    I'd suspect something strange in the NBC feed too.
     
  13. Sep 23, 2008 #33 of 150
    NJP11

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    I've noticed the problem most on CBS's HD feed during NFL games
     
  14. Sep 23, 2008 #34 of 150
    janry

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    I don't have an issue with how any of the FF speeds work, except in the last few minutes of a recorded program, if I FF then hit play to go back to normal, it skips the last few mintutes and hits the end of the recordling, like a skip to next click does. Then, I have to rewind back to where I was. This only started happened after the 9.4 update.
     
  15. Sep 23, 2008 #35 of 150
    deaddeeds

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    I noticed the 1XFF problem Sunday on NBC HD with my S3 during the Cowboy's game but last night on ESPN HD it was back to normal. But I have noticed the FF being choppy sporadically and skipping head by like 5 min on occasion. It is very annoying!!!
     
  16. Sep 28, 2008 #36 of 150
    NJP11

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    I decided to check today's games to see if I noticed the same problems as I had noticed on CBS's earlier Patriots game. The problem was again evident on today's CBS coverage of the Kansas City vs Denver game. When I went to check to see if I had the same problem on Fox's Jets vs Cardinals game fast forward 1x seem to work as it should. I noticed that the CBS games are in 1080i while Fox's are in 720p. Does anyone know what NBC and ESPN shoot their games in so I can see if the problem is related to only 1080i broadcasts.

    Thanks
     
  17. Sep 28, 2008 #37 of 150
    DigitalAnarchist

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    I have 2 TiVo HD's and they have both been doing this since 9.3 update. It is internittent - and usually just results in muting the sound. 2x, 3x work fine. Seems to clearly be a TiVo bug to me.

    I'm usually a 30 second skip person, but use 1x on occasion, esp for "flow" sports after the score approaches a blowout (basketball, hockey, etc.)

    I have Comcast digital cable with Motorola M-card with 480i component output, watching only standard def channels.
     
  18. Sep 29, 2008 #38 of 150
    Budget_HT

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    NBC is 1080i and ESPN is 720p.
     
  19. Sep 29, 2008 #39 of 150
    Poochie

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    Another evening of "slow" 1xFF on Sunday Night Football on NBC. It was not "slow" on either FOX (SF vs NO) or CBS (SD vs Oak) NFL games in HD. Since CBS is also 1080i, I doubt it's strictly a 1080i issue. Hopefully I'll remember to check other NBC programming at some point.

    All watched via Comcast cable on my S3 in the SF Bay Area.
     
  20. Oct 8, 2008 #40 of 150
    jbernardis

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    One further observation on this issue - it only seems to happen on NBC HD. I receie 3 such channels - channel 160 from comcast my cable provider, channel 10-1 OTA from Philadelphia and channel 4-1 OTA from New York. This problem occurs on all three of these channels, and seemingly on no other channels.
     

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