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Spring update coming...

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by GriffithStrife, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Apr 19, 2012 #41 of 154
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    If someone is going to keep a device that long then they should have opted for Lifetime - dollars are recouped in 30 months. Why would TiVo want to compete for servces on their own hardware? That makes no sense to me as a shareholder...
     
  2. Apr 19, 2012 #42 of 154
    Bighouse

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    I have lifetime subs. My tivos have always lasted considerably longer than 30 months.
     
  3. Apr 19, 2012 #43 of 154
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    None of my TiVo's have ever failed me. I only retired the S2 because I only have HD TV's in the house now.

    I NEVER pay service fees if I can avoid it. I probably would not own a TiVo if lifetime service was not available.
     
  4. Apr 19, 2012 #44 of 154
    L David Matheny

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    I think it's reasonable to expect TiVo to fix any significant bugs that are found, even on older units. But as for feature upgrades ... well, not so much. They're not going to spend a lot to develop features for EOL units, even if those older units could run them. The most that Series 3 owners might expect (beyond bug fixes) would be some easy retrofitting of some features developed for Series 4 units. That would generate goodwill for TiVo at little cost.
     
  5. Apr 19, 2012 #45 of 154
    lessd

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    Little cost, with new support and such I don't think it would be at little cost + I don't think the hardware is capable of most of the new stuff+ how do you make money on just goodwill, most TiVo users don't use much of what is now on their TiVos now, they just record and watch TV skipping the commercials.
     
  6. Apr 20, 2012 #46 of 154
    smbaker

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    By encouraging positive word-of-mouth and return customers?

    I'm more likely to buy something if I know it will continue to be supported. If I think it won't continue to be supported, I'm potentially more likely to rent a device from the cableco.
     
  7. Apr 20, 2012 #47 of 154
    aaronwt

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    I'm more likely to buy the newer version in that scenario. That would be more likely than me using the cable company DVR and being disappointed with it.
     
  8. Apr 20, 2012 #48 of 154
    shaown

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    If Tivo dropped the prices on older service plans - and I was month to month - I would not upgrade their to their newer HW. A big part of the incentive of buying the new HW is access to the new SW for the the same monthly price I Was paying. For my remaining S3 boxes - I have them because they are LTed

    For those that don't understand pricing - for most companies its NOT tied to cost - but tied to value. You want to charge the customer the amount they value the service - not the amount it costs to provide. As your costs drop, you can either recoup more margins, pay back your investment faster, or lower your prices to your customer IF you think that will drive more business / make you competitive. If S3 owners started unsubbing - and not replacing with Premieres, and Tivo felt all the upgraders had already upgraded - they would probably offer a deal (OH WAIT !!! THEY DID - the periodic $99 LT that goes around for older boxes)
    -Shaown
     
  9. Apr 20, 2012 #49 of 154
    shamilian

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    Yet they won't even do that. They could easily allow remote delete feature which they added to the S4, it would be quite simple, and for me would allow me to watch and delete a remotely recorded shows on my other Tivos.

    They write free clients for iphone/ipad/android phone/android tablet, but not the TivoHD/S3 ..... ?
     
  10. Apr 20, 2012 #50 of 154
    bradleys

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    How is that a bug fix? And how do you know it would be quite simple???

    Currently the Tablet app relies heavily the online tools to support the S3 models. It has very little direct connection to the TiVo itself. I disagree with you I consider your request significant and definately not a bug fix.

    It isn't even the same code branch to go back and work on the S3 software... Why would I want them wasting time adding functionality to an EOL product?
     
  11. Apr 20, 2012 #51 of 154
    MacQ2

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    You don't have to threaten to cancel. I recently deactivated a Tivo HD XL and the phone rep very politely wondered what I would do with it. When I said I wasn't sure but I might sell it on eBay he offered the $99 lifetime service to me. I never mentioned that I knew of that offer or cared about it - and didn't have to resort to threats.

    I took the offer as boxes with lifetime sell for much more than $99 extra than boxes without.
     
  12. Apr 20, 2012 #52 of 154
    unitron

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    If you get a good spin of the wheel at Customer Service Roulette.

    If not...
     
  13. Apr 22, 2012 #53 of 154
    Dr_Diablo

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    what version of the current software are you using on your unit?
     
  14. Apr 23, 2012 #54 of 154
    Bighouse

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    Wonder if the rollout will happen before the first of next month?
    Maybe we should start a new thread to track and find the first person who gets it?
     
  15. Apr 23, 2012 #55 of 154
    gweempose

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    All I can say is that I will be extremely disappointed in TiVo if they don't address the Kid Zone HDUI incompatibility. There is simply no excuse for it to have taken this long to get this working.
     
  16. Apr 23, 2012 #56 of 154
    shamilian

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    No Kidzone for Spring Update....


    @nguarracino I believe @tivodesign said parental options only in HDUI spring update and no kidzone at this time

    TiVo Margret Schmidt ‏ @tivodesign
    @brennokbob @nguarracino Correct.
     
  17. Apr 23, 2012 #57 of 154
    bradleys

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    According to everything we have heard, Kid zone is gone... Maybe better said has been redesigned into parental controls.

    Yes, it is supposed to be included in this release. I personally do not use parental controls on my devices - I have never found I needed technology to keep track and monitor my children... But I know serveral people who have been looking for this functionality.

    That is not what I understood. - From my reading, parental controls is replacing Kidszone and is to be included in the Spring release. Kidzone is being replaced by these new parental controls.
     
  18. Apr 23, 2012 #58 of 154
    jrtroo

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    If you started one now, you would have a million replies before it started. Plus, that would interfere with everyone wanting to be "first" and making a new thread when it actually happens.

    :)
     
  19. Apr 23, 2012 #59 of 154
    beejay

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    Yeah, let the guy who is forcing a connection every hour of the day get the glory of starting that thread...
     
  20. Apr 23, 2012 #60 of 154
    Bulldawg9908

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    Do you mean Kidzone will be removed as a feature, or that HDUI will be enabled with parental controls and Kidzone will still be around on the SDUI?

    I hope it's the latter. Kidzone makes it easy for my son to find his programs without all the clutter of our shows. Even with parental controls, he would still have to wade through a bunch of shows he's not allowed to watch.
     

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