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Sony T60 now won't finish booting

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by IBEmerson, May 2, 2012.

  1. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    Restart using the menu is best. You don't have to spend anything.
     
  2. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    FWIW, I have a 3.5c box that I've had fruitlessly phoning in for a couple of weeks in addition to not having heard of a single recent report of anyone with a S1 box getting the 3.5d software update without pulling the drive and doing it themselves. It is not unreasonable to think that DirecTV has decided that the costs of supporting 10 year old hardware are not worth it and you just happened upon a clueless CSR who knows nothing about TiVo.
     
  3. clherv

    clherv New Member

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    I have an SAT-T60 also. Bought around 2000. You can see old posts here. Upgraded hard drive myself around 2003. Bought lifetime subscription around 2002.

    Now, the box's only function is to remind me of the old days, and let me watch shows I already recorded.

    FIOS was isntalled Wednesday.

    A sad day, but a new chapter.
     
  4. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    I finally got around to giving this a shot. I was able to get a bash prompt on my DSR6000 running 3.5c via ppp over serial using a knoppix boot cd on my old Dell laptop with a serial port. This DSR6000 hasn't made a phone call since 2007 but has been actively subbed the entire time.

    As luck would have it, I did have the 3.5d slices on board:

    Code:
    bash-2.02# echo mls /SwSystem |tivosh
    Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''
    
    Name                      Type        FsId      Date  Time   Size
    ----                      ----        ----      ----  ----   ----
    3.5c-01-1-001             tyDb     1934658  10/20/09 03:26    708
    3.5d-01-1-001             tyDb     2509959  10/20/09 03:25    684
    ACTIVE                    tyDb     1934658  10/20/09 03:26    708
    Since I had nothing to lose, I tried a manual install the 3.5d software:

    Code:
    bash-2.02# ./installSw.itcl 3.5d-01-1-001
    05/22:17:44:11: ./installSw.itcl:  id of /SwSystem/ACTIVE is 105695998
    05/22:17:44:11: ./installSw.itcl:  id of /SwSystem/3.5d-01-1-001 is 123798229
    05/22:17:44:11: ./installSw.itcl:  Installing "3.5d-01-1-001".
    05/22:17:44:11: ./installSw.itcl:  Removing old package files
    05/22:17:44:11: ./installSw.itcl:  Getting packages from database
    05/22:17:44:18: ./installSw.itcl:  Executing jpm install of utils-1-1.cpio
    05/22:17:44:20: ./installSw.itcl:  Executing updateroot /dev/hda /install /var/packages
    Path prefix is /var/utils/
    
    Searching /etc/fstab for current root
    
    Old root is on /dev/hda4, new one goes on /dev/hda7
    
    Creating new filesystem on /dev/hda7
    
    Mounting new root filesystem on /install
    
    Building basic filesystem skeleton on /install
    
    Build directories
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZbin-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZetc-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZetccombo-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZkernel-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZlib-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZprom-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZsbin-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZtvbin-1-1.cpio
    Uncompressing /var/packages/GZtvlib-1-1.cpio
    Install /var/packages/GZbin-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZetc-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZetccombo-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZkernel-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZlib-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZprom-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZsbin-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZtvbin-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/GZtvlib-1-1.cpio into /install
    Install /var/packages/utils-1-1.cpio into /install
    Checking /install/etc/fstab
    
       newroot is 7, copying fstab from fstab.alternate
       Creating symlink for /install/etc/mtab
       Dismounting /install and checking its integrity
    
    
    Remounting /install read-only for comparison
    
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZbin-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZetc-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZetccombo-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZkernel-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZlib-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZprom-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZsbin-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZtvbin-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/GZtvlib-1-1.cpio in /install
    pretend to Verify /var/packages/utils-1-1.cpio in /install
    Dismounting /install
    
    
    Modifying bootparams to point to /dev/hda7
    
    Flipping root, setting boot parameters to 'root=/dev/hda7  runideturbo=false'
    
    OK, reboot the system to use the new root filesystem
    
    05/22:17:47:18: ./installSw.itcl:  Attempting reboot...

    After a reboot, I had a working DSR6000 running 3.5d! I took a quick 3.5d backup with the old MFSLive 1.4 CD I had hanging around, so I have an insurance policy if I have a disk failure and this is the terminal software release for the S1 DirecTiVo units. :up:
     
  5. SkipPi

    SkipPi New Member

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    good work there!!!


    As a side note in this thread
    my DSR6000 did the 70% hang up as we have been
    talking about.
    It also hangs at the 28% when checking the sats

    In another post I tell how I got it to
    boot.
    SteveL's pushing of the TiVo button would not work on my unit

    It then made the call but my software is still 3.0
    as has been said.

    I let the unit sit in standby for 24 hours and Holloa!
    sometime
    during this period it made it past 70%
    and is now working as it used to.

    I have to unplug the unit in about a month as
    we are moving to another campsite.
    Hope the magic works again.
     
  6. toivo

    toivo New Member

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    Hope it is ok to just add to this post as it sems like I have the same problem.

    SAT T-60, stuck at 70 or 79% Completely original receiver and TIVO, with lifetime subscription, I have not done anything with it. I however have not had it plugged into a phone line for a very long time, 2300 or so days. The drive is still good as I can watch previously recorded stuff, but I can not ge any live TV, even though I am at 90% on the dish signal, which is typical, and the best I usually get.

    Our power company called with a planned power outage, so I powered everything down in the house, and turned off the UPCs. (Darn outage never happened.) Then I powered everything back up ,and TIVO is stuck at the 70 or 79% acquiring screen. I have tried and tried to do the on/off, unplug dish, without any luck. I beleive I am running the 3.5c software, and will check when I get home.

    Any idea's for me?

    thanks -Neil
     
  7. toivo

    toivo New Member

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    Well, it has been a few days. I tried to get the T60 to make a call. It connected and negoiated for a new hours, and ended up failing the call.
    Forcing it to make the daily call it says dailing... then housekeeping, then failed couldn't connect.

    My software version is 3.1.0c2-01-1-011 if that makes a difference.

    Not sure what to do next, except maybe order a hopper.
     
  8. toivo

    toivo New Member

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    OK, so I had an idea, maybe my phone # was out of date. I went into configure, and entered 800 as my area code. It went through a whole phone test, and then said there was no local numbers. This time however, it came up with a different list of phone numbers, so I was able to change my local number. A phone test was just successful.

    Now force a call home (kinda painful after 2322 days without a daily call!)
    I went through prepare, dail, config, setting time, and download, and took about 15 minutes.

    Now it is 'loading data' with an estimated time of 103 minutes. It then said suceeded, in about 15 minutes.

    I deceided to make it do another call. same results.

    After all of that, it is no better then it was, and shows the same software version. Still hangs at 70 or 79%.


    I keep reading on the net that I need version 3.5c or 3.5d. I found this on dtvs website: http://www.directv.com/see/landing/dvr35_upgrade.html
    Is there anyway to easily install a more up-to-date software version?
     
  9. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    Assuming that DirecTV will not be providing the update via the official means, it depends on what you mean by "easy". If you are comfortable modifying your TiVo to get a bash prompt, you can see if you have the 3.5d slices on your system and install manually like I did here or you can acquire a 3.5d backup from a sympathetic SAT T-60 owner or purchase the InstantCake boot cd for the SAT T-60 (after verifying with dvrupgrade.com that it has software version 3.5d) and re-image a hard disk yourself.
     
  10. spiffy

    spiffy New Member

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    I've emailed DVRUpgrade twice already last week, trying to confirm whether their current InstantCake has 3.5d, but can't get them to answer me. Their release notes does not indicate if the latest version (2/1/08) has 3.5d; the version before that (9/07/07) has only 3.5c. They indicated on their web site that they do not offer support on InstantCake; but is it really that much of a trouble to just verify if the software we need is on the iso???
     
  11. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    I believe 3.5d was released around June 2008, so it is quite possible that the latest has 3.5c (released around September 2007) if those dates are correct. For some reason InstantCake seems to have been put on the back burner and the price has doubled, which is a shame since it was a useful product for many TiVo owners. :(
     
  12. jetstreme

    jetstreme New Member

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    I had the same problem with my T60 since early May. I finally decide to purchase the InstantCake yesterday. I can confirm that it is indeed version 3.5d. Everything is up and running now and I got back all my lost channels. It also handles larger hard drives, so now I have 350 hours. :)
     
  13. SkipPi

    SkipPi New Member

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  14. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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  15. toivo

    toivo New Member

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    OK, here is a strange update here.

    On Sunday, after leaving the tivo on for a couple of days, I noticed the message light was on. I checked it out, and the guide came up. This is the first time that it came up since the problem. The channels would not tune it, but the guide came up. I went into setup again, and had the same problems.

    I messed with it some more, with the boot, unplug ritual. Still no joy. So I started looking at things to replace it, and had a busy couple of days, so didn't make up my mind.

    Yesterday, noticed the message light again, so switched over to the tivo input, and the darn thing was working, and had even TIVOed 2 programs for me. No, I can't say what I did - not convinced that I really did anything. I now have the phone line plugged in, which is the only thing different then before. I did not do setup again, but did check the software version, and it did not change from before. I'm stumped. Don’t know what happened, but it is still working 24 hours later, and I have recorded, watched live and recorded programs.

    I'm still going to upgrade, but at least it is on by time frame. If you guys want me to check something, just let me know.
     
  16. SkipPi

    SkipPi New Member

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    thanks Daddio for the date of the software upgrade
    but I would like to know when the
    post appeared on the website.

    Has it been there for four years?
    or
    has the mothership realized the problem and
    is now doing something about it?

    My unit is a DSR6000 and the upgrade says for DSR6000R

    Maybe that is why mine did not upgrade?
    It has been constantly connected to the phone line except when
    traveling between campgrounds.

    Toivo: my DSR6000 did the same thing after
    letting it sit in standby for a couple days.

    working as normal now running 3.1 software
    but what will happen when we change campgrounds?

    I have no access to a PC that can be configured to
    load instantcake (all laptops here) so I may be forced
    into buying a complete upgrade hard drive. :^(
     
  17. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Get somebody whose dropbox account isn't already jammed to the gills like mine is, make an image file of the IC cd and let them download it and burn a copy and use it with an old IDE computer and the right size hard drive, then they can make an image from that with the MFS Live cd or WinMFS and upload it to dropbox and you can download it from there and restore.

    Or you could mail them the IC cd, or a burned copy of it, and they could put the images on cd and mail them to you.

    But they wouldn't have to have that model TiVo, just the old computer and the right size drive temporarily available as a middleman.
     
  18. SkipPi

    SkipPi New Member

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    thanks Unitron
    but we live in a travel trailer
    and move around

    and have no old IDE PCs only laptops
     
  19. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Well, obviously you have internet access, so upload IC to dropbox, get someone with an older PC to use it and take the resulting drive and make an MFS Live image or a WinMFS one and upload that to dropbox, and you download that and use the MFS Live cd or WinMFS to restore to the drive of your choice (provided it's at least as large as the original drive).

    If you don't have a dropbox account I can send you an invite and that way we both get extra free space (it's a free account, but you can pay for more space if you aren't a cheapskate like me).

    What size is the original drive in that TiVo?
     
  20. SkipPi

    SkipPi New Member

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    thanks again Unitron for the reply

    the hard drive is a 160GB

    I do not have a drop box account.
    If I can get you some free storage space
    I'd be happy to help.

    We live as I said in a campground ..
    Oceanlakes in Surfside Beach SC

    I do not have the computer experience to
    follow what you mean by
    use it and take the resulting drive and make an MFS Live image or a WinMFS one and upload that to dropbox,
    and you download that
    and use the MFS Live cd or WinMFS to restore
    to the drive of your choice (provided it's at least as large as the original drive).


    I have been researching MFS Live and could
    possibly do it from their instructions.

    Plus
    I don't know anyone with a desktop PC,
    everyone I know has a laptop.
    So
    I could buy a USB 2 to IDE adapter.


    sorry for the picture, I didn't know loading
    from my server used that much bandwidth.
     

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