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Sons of Anarchy - "Straw" - 9/10/13

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Archangel00, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    OMG as the kids say.

    I couldn't understand half of what they were saying. I kept jacking the volume up until I woke up my kids, then I looked for closed captioning on my TV and couldn't find it.

    I ended up just making up the lines myself.
     
  2. hummingbird_206

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    Thanks for the info uncdrew, but crap. What is it with this show? I hate CC. I feel like I miss seeing a lot of what's happening while reading. Really lessens my enjoyment of the show.
     
  3. Shaunnick

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    I had no audio issues. There were not really any parts last night were I recall anyone talking in a low volume.

    Chibs is usually the most painful for me to listen to, but I think that is more his accent than anything else. I had no issue with his lines last night.
     
  4. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    Some of the hookers were hard for me to hear.
     
  5. gchance

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    They were there... I thought I saw them when the girl was standing up (it was obscured off and on by the poles), but the girl lying down on the bed you could definitely see. It was briefly, and the camera was low, but they were there.

    Greg
     
  6. phox_mulder

    phox_mulder I get paid 2watch TV

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    2 boob shots, one definitely with nipplage, the other a big maybe.
    Porn star lying in bed in the background showed both, the Madame and Jax doing the deed at the end of the episode may have had some shadowy shots.

    2 man bum shots to even it out though.
    As a man, I think I'd rather see Jax's bum than Toric's though.

    Pretty sure we haven't seen the blond kid before, I think they did a good job of setting up who he was though, eventually.
    Kissed his mom in bed early in the show, then showed his mom with Dave Navarro's character, then showed them all together at the table.

    I did start out thinking it was Lyla he kissed in bed, making him Opie's kid.
    But I remember all Opie's kids being brown headed, then when Lyla showed up all bloody, I figured it was just some random blonde kid and blonde mom.

    Last season the Biz Lats (Mexican gang) had requested guns from SAMCRO, Jax said they'd give them some extra KG9's they had lying around, the gun the kid used in the school was a KG9 I guess.
    What wasn't set up well was why is the gun going to link back to SAMCRO?
    It's not like they acquired them legally or registered them or anything.

    Maybe this will be revealed next week.

    ETA, just had an epiphany.
    They made sure we saw the kids notebook pages being flipped through by the wind.
    I'm going to say that the kid either drew a picture of a mexican gang buying guns from a motorcycle club, or wrote it down in his ramblings somewhere.
    It was also tweeted last night that they did multiple takes of the notebook pages in the wind to get the shot just right

    Sutter had been tweeting that a major character would die in the premiere, I fully expected Juice to be gone, but glad he isn't.


    phox
     
  7. Shaunnick

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    :confused:

    The only people that died last night were the Iranians(Persians :D ).

    Or am I suffering major memory loss?
     
  8. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Back in the late 70s-early 80s, my friend and I used to turn down the audio on Star Trek TOS and makeup dialog! It was great!
     
  9. Rob Helmerichs

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    I think it was pretty much the opposite...she was looking forward to getting out the next morning, and didn't want to. She wants to be where she is.

    Now, she doesn't have to worry about getting bail.

    The kid confused me, too...at first, I thought maybe it was Jax as a kid (I didn't recognize the woman, although it clearly wasn't a younger Gemma). And when he kept showing up at different places in different towns (e.g., at the docks in Stockton when Robocop was having his coffee), I still figured he had to be imaginary.

    Then he opened fire, and I decided he probably wasn't imaginary. :D
     
  10. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    That is exactly how it played out in my mind too.
     
  11. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only woman here watching this? I've been crazy about Jimmy Smits since seeing him in an old 80s film -- "Running Scared". I loved how he broke bad last season and now kicking it this season.

    I'm tired of Tara.

    Back to the kid -- what was with the injuries on his left arm? Cutting?
     
  12. phox_mulder

    phox_mulder I get paid 2watch TV

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    I think it's been determined that he was messing with us.

    A lot more died off screen.
    Now the internet is complaining the school shooting was too soon and not needed to tell the story.

    Also rumors of some deleted scenes that may or may not make it to the DVD next year.


    phox
     
  13. mrdazzo7

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    Back in early august I guess they screened the premiere for the press and so there was a lot of coverage on that scene, without actually saying what it was. Basically saying something happens in the episode is that will absolutely create controversy. Given what they've shown in the past, I was actually expecting whatever this was to be a lot worse... Like once the kid sat down I put together that he was gonna do what he did, but based on that press coverage I thought for sure that scene was gonna be a lot more graphic. I'm glad it wasn't.

    It's a very sensitive subject matter, but I don't think they took it too far in terms of how they showed it (aside from the one blood spatter on the window). It definitely made me uneasy though. It's a little more "real life" than I like my entertainment but at the same time, it's not the first show to use real events in some way. I think there's gonna be a lot of flack since that is still kind of fresh. I guess we'll see how it plays out.

    I thought Otto's man rape was pretty horrific! lol... Dude wasn't kidding last season when he said he make him wish he was dead. Geez. Donal Louge is killing it in my opinion. Dude is completely unhinged. I love the way the writing is on this show - there a rico case building for two seasons, Tara finagles her way in to talk to Otto, Otto stabs a random nurse in order to discredit himself from being a witness, and the nurse just happens to have a psychotic ex-marshall brother who is now utterly hell-bent on taking every one of them down.

    Lots of good set-up for this season...
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

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    FYP!

    And that really changes things...I was thinking with everything that's in motion towards the destruction of SAMCRO, how do they even survive through this season into the next? But with the marshal now turning into a psychotic lunatic, that gives them an out...if what he is and what he's done comes to light, then everything he's accomplished evaporates.

    I have to wonder if turning him into a junkie is a new idea, designed to write them out of a corner they had written themselves into. Because while he was clearly on something all this episode, I never got the impression that he was chemically altered last year.
     
  15. mrdazzo7

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    Maybe, but what corner did they write themselves into last season? I don't think he was on long enough to go one way or the other. It definitely goes a long way in him not being able to take them down through legal channels (since he's not exactly credible), but him being a psychotic junkie ex-marshall is worse for them because I don't think he WANTS to take them down through legal channels. He wants them all completely destroyed.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But everything he has on Otto and Tara now goes out the window. Last season it was Toric's vendetta against SAMCRO with the full weight of the US Government behind him. If what he's done comes out, then it's a lone psycho against a whole gang of psychos, and their psycho friends. Last season, it looked like he was going to win; he was a nasty, driven man who would do what it took to bring the full weight etc. etc. But now that's he's a criminal junkie whose personal vendetta involves multiple felonies that will probably taint any attempt by anybody to ever convict any of his targets, he is VASTLY outgunned. He doesn't stand a prayer...once his true nature comes out.

    The corner they wrote themselves into was making him too effective an enemy. That's now been taken away from him, and it's a whole new ballgame.
     
  17. midas

    midas I heard that

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    I think you might be wrong on this. First, let me say I don't read any things about this show other than what's posted here. So no spoilers involved.

    I think this will be the end of Tig. You could see that Jax is still reluctant to feed Tig to the Pope guy. But I think this will cause some issues with something, vendetta from the Iranians, crooked cop, who knows? I think whatever blowback they get will cause Jax to finally feed Tig to the wolves.


    But I think you're right on this one.
     
  18. Mr. Soze

    Mr. Soze On my best behaviour

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    Jax: Can you do both at the same time? #WhatHeShouldHaveSaid
     
  19. VegasVic

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    When Otto cut out his tongue last year Sutter said he was tired of learning lines. All he had to do was grunt in this one.
     
  20. VegasVic

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    I can't stand Tara, the character or the actress.
     

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