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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by uncdrew, Nov 6, 2013.
He also killed Jax's dad and Piney, who was his dad's best friend and co-founder of the club.
Given enough time, all the bad stuff that has happened to the club could be tied back to an action by Clay.
The kidnapping of Abel maybe the only exception.
Cool, so I assume you're gonna stop watching.
I still enjoy the show. I just wanted to poiint out that there remains NOTHING WHATSOEVER to admire in Jax Teller. He has completed the journey from (somewhat) innocent MC member to psychotic murdering criminal.
I don't know about the rest of you, but when the DA said (about Tara): "If she leaves and takes the boys, the Sons will hunt her down and murder her." I found it completely credible.
I'd like to point out that the Sons did in fact supply the unregistered KG-9 that was used in the school shooting, and each one of them is a multiple murderer, prime among them Jax.
I doubt that Justice will be done in this series, as it was in Breaking Bad, where only Jesse escaped prosecution. The SOA are in fact an outlaw motorcycle gang, and deserve the attention of all the Federal, State, and Local Law Enforcement Agencies that battle organized crime.
Jax Teller deserves to lose his kids, who otherwise would probably grow up a lot like him.
There are a lot of people out there still catching up on Breaking Bad. By far I am not the spoiler police but I can see your post being a pretty big spoiler for the end of Breaking Bad. Just saying.
I know this is off topic...but I think it would have been cool if somewhere in the series there would have been a SOA/Justified cross-over episode(s). I'm sure the writers could have come up with one hell of an episode.
I'm not sure how practical that would have been (different worlds, really), but given that SoA and The Shield are already established to be in the same world, it's too bad they couldn't/wouldn't do more than drop little hints...
I don't get the hostility to Gary McCoy's post #78. Jax *is* a mass murdering criminal sociopath. There's nothing good or honorable about Jax or SAMCRO. If this were the real world, Tara *should* take the DA's deal and get the bleep out of Charming.
Jax said he didn't want any cops killed. One cop/guard was killed so the break was botched. This is a tv show with another season to run so SAMCRO will escape relatively unscathed but the DA pretty much knows that SAMCRO was involved. Because one of their own was killed, law enforcement shouldn't rest until arrests are made. I can't remember his name but Peter Weller's character shouldn't be too happy with the gang either.
He only kills bad guys.
Exactly. Since they delivered Galen and the guns their immunity for anything related to guns would be in effect, the only thing outstanding would have been breaking Clay out, but since Clay was found soon after, it's reasonable to expect (in SOAworld) that the police wouldn't pursue that too heavily. But, a cop was killed and even in SOAworld, this has to be addressed.
But this is the United States of America, where one is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, is furthermore entitled to a trial by a jury of your peers, and can only be executed after due process.
Jax is a murdering criminal who deserves the death penalty himself. After a trial, and after a jury finds him guilty. We know he is guilty, because we have seen him commit those crimes on screen.
Get over this, the writers made a deliberate decision to take the character in this direction, after the first few seasons when he was just a little bit bent.
Hopefully you are rooting for law and order now, and for the SOA to be disbanded and imprisoned as an outlaw motorcycle gang.
Not even close. I want SOA to prosper.
You realize it's a TV show right? If it were real I would have grown up in Charming. (Seriously, the geographic info they give on it puts it as the town I grew up in).
Sometimes it's ok to root for the bad guy. Just like The Shield.
I am familiar with anti-heros, ever since my comic book days. But as an adult, I watched The Sopranos, The Shield, Breaking Bad, and SOA all without identifying with or rooting for the main character - at least after his true nature became clear. Because morality is not relative, it is absolute.
The shows were entertaining, without rooting for a criminal.
You can't be real.
I am real and if the SOA MC doesn't get busted, I'll be disappointed.
Are you really rooting for a multiple murderer, who is responsible for a school shooting where several kids died, and has committed multiple other crimes as he killed approximately two dozen people in five seasons?
In any case, we are coming to the end of the story arc, which after all is the same as Hamlet. So there is reason to think that everybody will experience tragedy, and the story will then end.
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What town is that? I've never put much effort into pinpointing the location. I know Stockton is mentioned a lot, but I don't know much about smaller towns in that area. Manteca and Lodi seem to be too big to be Charming. Also, if it were set in Lodi there would be a lot more scenes where they send a prospect out to Lockeford to buy sausages.