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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by uncdrew, Nov 6, 2013.
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I wasn't strictly talking about SoA.
Lol the math doesn't quite work but the point is pretty valid anyways
So sad. I liked Tara.
Gemma thought Tara had cut a deal and gone in witsec.
She went to Jax's house hoping to see Jax before he surrendered.
But if she knew Jax was surrendering she'd know the deal that he cut.
Crazy thought. Wouldn't the first thing she would have done upon getting the news from Wayne would be to call her son?
The thing is that the scene itself with her and Tara was awesome and you could get to that scene in a way that makes total sense and provides good drama. But instead Sutter stayed with his same lazy and implausible plot devices.
Oh and while I'm on a rant I'm also really kind of sick of the same tired thing they do at the end of the season with the music and the montage of all the characters and the heartwarming shot of chucky at the bar lol. Sometimes I wonder if Sutter was a big Waltons fan as a kid
So does Jax's surrender still go through? Does he wind up in prison for the gun deal, or does that get forgotten?
I don't think there's anyway Jax gets in trouble for Tara's death, but I do think the homeless lady might pay off next season, if she rats out Juice.
Well, there wouldn't be much point in him going through with it now, would there? What would he have to gain, without getting freedom for Tara?
This. Tired of both of them. Her blowup with Smits was stupid but he is better off without her drama.
Agreed. Too many innocents are killed directly and indirectly caused by SAMCRO.
I was mixed about her. She was right to get their sons out but should have done so way back when Jax encouraged it. Her procrastination unnerved me so I wasn't that sad to see her go. I'm still concerned about the kiddos.
I'm hoping that's deliberate, and that they're working towards something. Because it is ironic that when the brutal, eager criminal was in charge, Charming was a safe place (if you weren't actually in the gang), but now that the peacenik who wants to get out of crime is the boss, innocents and law enforcement are dying left and right.
Yeah, Sutter has said in interviews that a big part of Jax's arc is the irony of Jax hating Clay yet basically becoming him - the man he despise most, etc. We've see Jax go through just about every iteration of someone in his position - he spent season two preparing to leave then found out about Gemma's rape so he stayed to take out Zobell; season four he was going to leave with his family but then he felt obligated to the club to take over once the Clay/Piney thing got out; season five he accepted his place as President instead of constantly wanting to leave; and then watching Opie's murder just sent him off the rails, he got way darker after that.
I thought the school shooting was gonna be the catalyst that brought him back down to earth, and kind of started him on a "path to redemption", but it didn't seem to really do anything to him emotionally. It pushed him to get out of guns (which set off pretty much every death throughout the season), but he did it to get rid of the heat, not because he felt the weight of the kids' deaths (which is what I thought Sutter was going for since he said the shooting was gonna change Jax).
I'm really curious to see what Season Seven (final season?) Jax looks like. He's obviously not gonna turn himself in but at this point I feel like Patterson has to have something to be able to arrest him for. He's been playing her all season. I'm also wondering what the cops will be able to piece together from that crime scene, lol. You have one body that was beaten, drowned, and stabbed in the head with a fork and another body that was shot three times from behind. They clearly didn't kill each other. Side Note, I don't know why but Roosevelt getting shot made me jump - didn't see it coming.
This is still one of my favorite shows of all time but I think ending next season would be the right move, especially after the way this played out - it does a good job of setting up a final run of episodes. If Breaking Bad and Dexter taught us anything it's that ending a show while it's still good is the right way to do it, and ending a show three seasons too late is the wrong way.
And in fact, he's in some ways worse than Clay ever was...Clay at least was good at keeping whatever blowback from his actions focused on the club and not the community. But with Jax, people are dropping all over the place, some of whom have no connection with his activities.
Actually getting out of guns has been his end game for pretty much the entire run, not just this season.
IIRC she was told Jax was surrenderign at 6. People surrender all the time, she had no knowledge that Jax cut the deal, not Tara.
I don't remember that, but I have a terrible memory. But let's assume that's the case. What reason, other than trying to protect Tara, would cause Jax to do that? That's especially the case when Tara shows up.
But while we all rant about lazy writing and stupid characters, I just watched the final 2 episodes from 1967 of The Fugitive. At the time, the final episode was the highest rated television series episode of all time.
It was AWFUL. Nothing made sense. Every good guy/bad guy cliche was used. It was bad television at it's worst. And at the time, it was the greatest show ever.
We've truly become spoiled when we complain about shows like SOA.
Yes, it's the final season.
Or just about any show, really. We (TV viewers) used to put up with a LOT more as recently as ten years ago. I think people get too nitpicky here. But it's TCF.
I covered my eyes with the fork scene. I was surprised Juice didn't off himself and make all signs point to him as Tara's killer. Motive for killing her? He thought she was a rat, and it's his way of making amends with Jax.
But Kurt, Jax+Juice < Michael+Fredo. Coppola did it better.