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Sons of Anarchy - "J'ai Obtenu Cette" 12/4/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by VegasVic, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Idearat

    Idearat New Member

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    Pope said he sent a copy of the contract to Hale. If so, then the copy Jax wasn't supposed to have received shouldn't be an issue.
     
  2. Ment

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    'Call Lowen', the club lawyer.
     
  3. Rob Helmerichs

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    No, that's what Tara said as she was being taken out.

    Gemma said, "I'm here, baby."
     
  4. Ment

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    Oh sorry..misread. You're right.
     
  5. Archangel00

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    Pretty much glad it's over. Some entertaining and exciting moments scattered about the season but for the most part it was a prettly lame season.

    Continue to either kill off (Opie, Laroy, Pope, Piney, Kip, Kozik, etc.) or severely limit(Unser, Romeo, Luis, Alvarez, etc.) anyone that is/were the most likeable and enjoyable characters, and continue to keep the most annoying(or deserving of a visit from Mr. Mayhem in Clay's case) around. Plus adding to the ranks of the nothing but annoying characters now(Jax, Bobby and Juice).

    Enjoyed Nero/Smits for the most part, as well as Pope/Perrineau.
    Was also glad to see Donal Logue added to the cast too, but would rather had him in a role as a SAMCRO member. I mean it isn't like the club doesn't need some new members and Logue would be a great addition I've no doubt. Seems pretty obvious he won't be around very long in the role they cast him.
     
  6. mrdazzo7

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    I thought it was a decent finale to an excellent season. I think the finale kind of lacked something, but I'm not sure what. I think it's "finality". It left just about everything up in their air, but I think in the overall arc in the show, it's a hugely critical season, so I'm gonna see how things play out next season. I loved this season--lots of stuff, tons of thematic elements, good twists, good acting. Once they killed Opie it did what I think it was supposed to do which is convince me that no one is safe.

    If I had to change something about the finale, it would be the resolution of the Pope storyline. After 12 episodes and a ton of build-up, it was over in a few seconds. I also think it was weak that he was established as a super-human, well connected criminal mastermind, yet Jax was able to take out his bodyguards and prevent him from reaching his own gun in a matter of 10 seconds. And the fact that he had #2 with him in every single other scene except this one was just weird. I think it would have been better writing-wise if #2 was in on it...

    I guess it's possible that even though they weren't "in" on it, maybe #2 saw right through Jax's set-up and knew exactly what the outcome would be (or at least that it was a possibility), and basically let it unfold. Jax's story is pretty implausible, and you can tell #2 doesn't believe it, but he's not upset about it either.

    I did like the fact that he used Clay's gun to set him up. When Pope reminding him of what happens to whoever kills him and Jax says "I'm counting on it", I was wondering what the hell he was thinking--why would he provoke that? I had forgotten about Juice getting Clay's gun, etc, so I was all "ohhhhh... nice".

    That's another story element that I love about this show--so many different elements came into play for him to execute that set-up. Pope telling him about his bounty, Juice bonding with Clay all season so it makes sense that Clay gives him his gun, Roosevelt's wife getting killed by the nomads so that Roosevelt loses it and makes a deal with Jax and (inadvertently) telling him about Juice which gives Jax the leverage he needs to have Juice steal the gun... Gemma crashing with the kids in the car putting her outside the family and having to earn her way back in by helping Jax set-up Clay... it all reminds me of season two and all the stuff that led up to Gemma being framed for killing the irish kid which then triggered all the stuff in season three.

    I don't think I've ever seen such interconnectedness on a show--everything that happens has a purpose. Love it.
     
  7. uncdrew

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    Agreed, I liked how it came together.

    And if Pope had just shot Tig in the parking lot, Jax could just go to plan B. :)


    Bobby's character bugs me. He's turning into Piney - just an old member who perhaps at one point was useful but now just a high and mighty pain in the ass. I'm fine with him leaving. I can't remember much more than him just tagging along or getting in the way. I'm all about Chibbs for VP.

    I hope we get several episodes with Clay squirming and surviving in prison.

    Otto and his tongue -- insane. That was intense.
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah, the way Sutter has treated Otto over the years, I sense a bit of self-loathing... :D
     
  9. cheesesteak

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    Yup, that's how I see it too. But Jax is the star of the show so he gets to pull off the incredible no matter how unbelievable it is.
     
  10. VegasVic

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  11. VegasVic

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    From the interview Sutter plans on 2 more seasons with a possibility of extra episodes one on or both if he feels he needs them to complete the story.

    It will be interesting to see what his next project will be.
     
  12. wprager

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    Is the title wrong (grammatically, meaning-wise) on purpose? That title means "I received this _______" -- where "this" is being used as an adjective and not a pronoun, so there should be a noun at the end. Even if you changed it to "J'ai obtenu ça" it would mean "I received this" (where "this" is a pronoun) and not "I got this". I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows enough French to spot this. I'm also sure the producers have enough money to not rely on Google translate.

    Sorry, I don't watch the show but was intrigue by the title. It's something that perhaps a grade school student learning French would come up with.

    Sorry, I don't watch this show so I don't know all the nuances (like maybe someone's kid is taking French in school and
     
  13. uncdrew

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    As you've supported, Motorcycle Clubs and French grammar don't mix. :p
     
  14. phox_mulder

    phox_mulder I get paid 2watch TV

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    Sutter said either on Twitter or in an interview that yes, the title was wrong on purpose.
    I forget the reasoning, if any, he gave though.


    phox
     
  15. JLucPicard

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    Plus the only person who speaks french on the show is a chronic masturbator who had all of his fingers cut off by a Chinese gang that he wronged. Then he was threatened that if he didn't quit his obsessive rhyming his replacement fingers would be sold on eBay. So he took to speaking french.

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to me that the title would be grammatically incorrect. ;)
     
  16. wprager

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    No fingers? How does he ...
     
  17. Gary McCoy

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    I gotta say that as much as I enjoy SOA, Jax has never been a believable character for me. His scruffy blonde hair and beard, the pants hanging down and dragging behind him, the shirtale hanging out from his "cuts", the sneakers, all make him resemble an older Calvin from the "Calvin and Hobbes" comic. I think the role was miscast.
     
  18. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    ^

    You're old. :p. that's how thugs dress these days.
     
  19. Idearat

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    I'm never going to be able to look at Calvin or Jax the same way again.

    Apologies to Waterson in advance, but someone should take the strips of Calvin massacring snowmen and replace the text with Jax's lines from SOA.
     
  20. VegasVic

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    Sutter:

    Hunnam:
     

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