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Sons of Anarchy - "J'ai Obtenu Cette" 12/4/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by VegasVic, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Dec 5, 2012 #1 of 53
    VegasVic

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    "I Got This".

    Pope dead, Clay and Tara in jail. Bobby resigns as VP. Disappointing IMO. We know how long people stay in jail on this show.

    Glad Tig is still around and hopefully Smits will be back.
     
  2. Dec 5, 2012 #2 of 53
    rgswff2

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    Did the shot at the end mirror the closing shot from last season's finale just with Gemma replacing Tara?
     
  3. Dec 5, 2012 #3 of 53
    VegasVic

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    No Unser, no Donal Logue (hoping he's back next year). Goggins too.

    And the bodyguard (August Marks, don't know if the character had a name), seemed to be with Pope at all times except at the end. I thought Jax had given him a heads up about what he wanted to do but maybe not.
     
  4. Dec 5, 2012 #4 of 53
    cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh.

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    I was wrong about Pope surviving. I would have done things differently if I ran the show but I can't say that I was disappointed with how things played out. I guess Jax has become a criminal mastermind.

    How many people has Jax killed this year? Seems like a lot.

    Tara, how about telling Jax that his mom said that she would set you up? Maybe when they're putting the cuffs on you.

    Looks like Clay survives until next year. Since Clay is the ultimate survivor, maybe Pope's murder blows back on Jax somehow.

    I don't know what upset me the most, the dog fight footage or whoever sang the opening To Sir With Love song. Was that Katey Sagal?

    Could Clay's fingerprints still be on the gun after Jax shot around eight guys with it?
     
  5. Dec 5, 2012 #5 of 53
    Sadara

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    I was a little disappointed in the ending. Tara is stupid.... she should have told Jax about Gemma framing her.

    She also should have understood just how much Jax can't tolerate Wendy. The way I see it, Tara is responsible for what Jax did to Wendy.

    I think Juice was supposed to be the one that threw Clay under the bus. But, some how Gemma saw a way out of the situation with Clay and jumped on it. I was laughing until my sides hurt over the sheriff and the dumb founded look on his face! That was too funny!

    And at least the Sheriff had the decency to look ashamed to be arresting Jax's wife after Jax served up Clay on a silver platter.

    I think Tara will beat it, but I think the situation between Tara, Jax and Gemma is going to be way uglier next season than it was this season. I don't think Wendy is out of the picture yet either. We'll see.

    Not surprised about Bobby, he isn't a good VP for Jax. I think Tiggy is showing he's earned VP back in my opinion.
     
  6. Dec 5, 2012 #6 of 53
    VegasVic

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    That's what I'm afraid of. I hate this whole storyline.
     
  7. Dec 5, 2012 #7 of 53
    Sadara

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    Me too! But, the old ladies have their own set of drama... I guess this is their way of giving us that. Though, I don't enjoy it much!
     
  8. Dec 5, 2012 #8 of 53
    Idearat

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    I thought that. The pose with Tara and Jax was itself the same pose as Gemma and John Teller in the old photo when he was president.


    While it looks like Clay is around until next season, I hope to heck we don't see some magical way that he survives in jail. The contract is supposedly already out on him, he's going in alone, so living for any length of time in jail would be a miracle. I guess some Feds could swoop in when he's getting out of the van and whisk him away to offer him a deal to replace Otto as the star witness in the RICO case.

    As soon as Jax told Pope to go inside the building I knew something was up. I'd forgotten how much they'd highlighted Clay's gun, so I was thinking something like blowing up the warehouse, not saving Tig and letting him kill Pope. I think letting Tig kill Pope was the bit that kept him from turning on Jax for being bait.

    Gemma framing Tara is still fuzzy in my mind. It sounded earlier with the meeting with her lawyer like Tara was out of the murder conspiracy charge, just the misdemeanor charge for bringing contraband to a prisoner. For Gemma to change that, wouldn't she have to testify that Tara told her the purpose for the cross was to kill the nurse? Seeing that the cross wasn't an actual dagger, Tara could have given him anything to accomplish the same purpose, it wasn't necessary to smuggle something in. Seems like a weak case, unless I'm missing something.
     
  9. Dec 5, 2012 #9 of 53
    cheesesteak

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    How'd I forget about Otto? Man, that was nasty!
     
  10. VegasVic

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    Tara and Clay will be out by the end of episode 1.
     
  11. Sadara

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    I will admit, I was horrified!! I wanted to forget that happened!!
     
  12. Ment

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    Wouldn't put it past Gemma to tell Jax how/why Tara was taking the kids and that she was going to frame her to keep them there. Got to hand it Tara, she kept herself together when she was cuffed.

    Katey sang the opening song.
     
  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    Except that he's insane. I don't think anybody would ever trust him to make decisions.

    That does raise an interesting question, though...who will be the new VP?

    During Jax's first conversation with Pope, I got the vibe that he and Pope's sidekick had something going. But clearly not...yet, anyway. I knew Pope had to die (for reasons I explained last week), and I'm glad they came up with a way that didn't involve some vast conspiracy on Jax's part that we never caught a whiff of, or Jax just getting lucky. That was a surprisingly elegant solution, all of whose pieces we saw previously. And of course in the end it won't work out as neatly as Jax planned.

    Much as I'd love to see it, I don't think Clay can die. Yet. I think he needs to be part of the show's end-game. It will be interesting to see how he gets out of his double predicament (being in jail, and having Pope's people after him).

    Having Tara's face morph into Gemma's at the beginning was a bit on-the-nose. I think we have all gotten the point.
     
  14. goblue97

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    I thought this was a fantastic episode. I was on the edge of my seat for the majority of it. For some reason I thought the cartel/CIA/etc guys would be in the building where Pope was killed. It was a bit odd though that Pope's number 2 guy wasn't with him for that meet.
     
  15. cheesesteak

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    Who is left? The guy playing Happy probably can't act his way out of a paper bag. They destroyed Juice's character this season. No way he gets the VP slot. Filthy Phil? He had as many lines as a black guy on the Walking Dead. Not him either. My guess would be Chibs gets promoted to VP and Tig gets Sergeant At Arms. Or Jax leaves it vacant since he's not going to listen to anybody anyway. Whatever happens, SAMCRO definitely needs new members.

    I thought Bobby was a great choice for Jax's VP. A voice of reason to keep Jax from becoming what his father wouldn't want - Clay.
     
  16. jschuur

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    Pretty sure that's Chekhov's gun you're thinking of, not Clay's.
     
  17. cheesesteak

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    Kurt Sutter refers to SOA as a soap opera. I wonder why nobody has developed amnesia or has a long lost evil twin yet.
     
  18. Timbeau

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    I seem to remember that Pope gave Jax the Charming Heights contract when then met outside the warehouse and then Jax told Pope's #2 that there were so many people at the warehouse that he didn't stop. He then mentioned the contract to Pope's #2. Am I remembering that correctly? If yes, I wonder if it will come back to bite him.

    I think Donal Logue will be SOA's main antagonist next season, it seems like Sutter was setting that up in the last couple of episodes. And since Logue's character is an ex-US Marshall, will we be seeing Raylan Givens?
     
  19. VegasVic

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    Pope #2 was always right next to Pope, except at the warehouse to kill Tigs. That's why I thought he was in on it with Jax. But then it didn't appears as if he knew about it ahead of time.
     
  20. markymark_ctown

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    that would be all kinds of awesome.

    what was the very last thing Gemma whispered to Jax at the very end. Couldn't pick it up...
     

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