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So You Think You Can Dance "Top 20 performance" 7/11/2012 *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Kamakzie, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

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    Me too. I actually enjoyed quite a few of these routines, especially since it was the first week of partnerships.

    I still vote for Amelia.
     
  2. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    If you guys enjoyed the performances, that's great. Like I said earlier, I'm sorry to be Debbie Downer.

    I know I'm especially persnickety about wanting a perfect combination of choreography + music + dancers + performance. I don't expect to find that on week 1 of any show (although sometimes I do get surprised).

    But if I apply my standard two tests -- 1) want to immediately run it back and watch the number again and 2) want to immediately rush to acquire a copy of the music, especially if it is music I usually have no interest in -- nothing passed tonight.

    The best I could say of the sorta-good numbers is that they entertained me at the time. Which is okay. It's only week 1.
     
  3. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    I don't want to take you to task because I really do value your opinion...sometimes. You always compare apples to oranges for me. You bring up ice skating or ice dancing with people who have been partners for years.

    These are teenagers and young adults on SYTYCD and they are just starting out in the world of working with professional choreographers.

    A connection with a partner in a week would be a miracle.
     
  4. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    Ursula K. Le Guin, the science fiction writer, wrote an essay in which she touched on that very point. She said that we do not blame the kid down the block if he does not play the violin like Jascha Heifetz -- but we should know the standard that he falls short of.

    I agree with you that under most circumstances, having a fabulous connection with your partner in a week would be a miracle. With two young dancers starting out, it's very unlikely. On the other hand, it can happen, especially if one partner already comes to the table with strong partnering skills. Look at Russell Ferguson and Iveta during Vegas week, with Louis van Amstel's cha-cha. Iveta had a couple of hours to whip Russell into shape, and it looked as if they had been dancing together for years. Yes, that's an extreme case -- Iveta was a World Champion in her discipline, and the Vegas week choreography challenges are not very long.

    Anyway, here's my point. I am not blaming the dancers. When the show is a dud for me, I put the blame squarely where it belongs, on the shoulders of the producers. Each year the show gets more and more competitive, and each year they boast that their dancers are more and more skilled. We see numbers which are more technically difficult, and yet a lot of the time they are not very satisfying. So what's going wrong?

    IMHO the choreographers are overfacing the dancers in the early rounds. (And I'm not the only person who thinks so -- see Cainebj's remarks in post #4.)

    They don't have the time to develop any chemistry because the limited rehearsal time is used up by the dancers getting the hard technical stuff under their belt, so the performance quality suffers.
     
  5. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

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    i am cracking up because i thought i was the only one who did that

    i bought a copy of the music from the opening number during the commercial break called Architect of the Mind by Kerry Muzzey

    i've also bought 3 or 4 others
    Ramalama and hiphip chinchin come to mind... :p
     
  6. jradosh

    jradosh Newlywed

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    I bought an album by Koop based on SYTYCD. :)
     
  7. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I rest my case. ;)

    Edited to add: Ramalama is one of the first things I got because of SYTYCD. Hip Hip Chin Chin is a lot of fun -- I'm not sure if I have it yet, but if not, it's still on the to-buy list.
     
  8. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    I agree the producers are to blame but playing devils advocate here they have to promo the show. Sure they are going to say "our best talent ever!" and "this season will be electric" or some crap. But if they just said "it will be as good as last year" no one gets excited for that.
     

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