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So You Think You Can Dance - Season 10

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by voripteth, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. Jul 3, 2013 #61 of 113
    Zephyr

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    Agreed, don't like it. This places undue burden on the surviving partner. How can anyone just being kicked off give it their best mind and body. Once again, good people will be hurt. Nigel was not happy with the audience vote plus one of the choreographers toward the end. I wonder if this is another turning point?
     
  2. Jul 4, 2013 #62 of 113
    That Don Guy

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    Something else I noticed about this season: in the past, when they had two finalists with the same first name, Cat always called them by their first name and last initial, but this year, instead of "Jasmine H" and "Jasmine M", it's "Jasmine Harper" and "Jasmine Mason"...and I think I know why: Cat has a habit of pronouncing the letter H as "Haitch" (she did it quite a bit when she hosted 20Q on GSN), and somebody might think that calling her "Jasmine Haitch" might affect her performance and/or the voting somehow.
     
  3. Jul 4, 2013 #63 of 113
    MauriAnne

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    I'm watching this season, but I'm not as interested in it as previous seasons. Maybe it's just early in the season and I can't keep them all straight and I'll like it more when it's down to a more reasonable number. Or maybe I'm just over it.

    Time will tell.
     
  4. Jul 4, 2013 #64 of 113
    Cainebj

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    I don't really care for eliminated dancers having to dance so I think that weird and I always thought seeing the routines of the night had some weight to the outcome -
    It was interesting to hear them talk about the dress rehearsals so I am guessing that is what they are using.

    First time I recall Nigel trashing a choreographer.
    I wish that would happen more often.

    and ya know what I hate? I hate when a choreographer choreographs something I like and then I have to admit it. I cannot STAND Tyce Diorio but I liked the opening number only have to eat crow when I found out he did it!
     
  5. Jul 4, 2013 #65 of 113
    jradosh

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    I can't believe they didn't jettison the krumper girl after she stopped "dancing for her life" before the countdown was over. :rolleyes:

    And I agree it would make more sense to eliminate the dancers at the end of the performance show, not at the beginning.

    And for the love of all that's holy, stop the frickin' circular camera shots!!! :mad:
     
  6. Jul 7, 2013 #66 of 113
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    Your comment about Tyce made me laugh out loud.

    I've discovered over the seasons that I don't like Tyce's work in a big way. Except that every now and again, he turns out something that I really, really like. Go figure.

    And I'll play devil's advocate about the new system of announcing the eliminations and then asking people to dance. One thing that bugs me about Dancing With the Stars is that they announce at the end of the show that the eliminated amateur and have 'a final dance', which is really just a little bit of social noodling on the floor before all the others come out to give them farewell hugs.

    With this new system, the audience gets a real 'farewell dance'.

    Other than that, though, I think it's stupid and wrong. Why put partners in the headspace where they are prone to lose focus and make mistakes? It's a recipe for disaster. Yes, if they're pros, the show must go on yada yada yada, they have to learn to compartmentalize, but it's stupid and inhumane.

    I'd much rather have the bottom threes announced at the top of the show and then have the duets be part of the 'dance for your life' data.

    And I've said it before -- I hate the 30-second solos. Yes, if the dancing is not up to snuff, making it 60 seconds instead of 30 seconds is not going to make it any better. But giving people only 30 seconds encourages them to cram all their tricks into a very small bag, instead of taking the time to fill out the music properly. So I say give them the 60 seconds, and let the weaker dancers expose themselves by not being able to fill it out.
     
  7. Jul 8, 2013 #67 of 113
    jradosh

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    I've always disliked the countdown the audience does at the very end of the 30 second solos. It really encourages the dancers to start ramping up the tricks or cramming in a "wrap up" move.

    If they would give the "dance for your life" dancers between 30 and 60 seconds for their routines, it would satisfy both of us. :) And we wouldn't have weak endings like last week's krumper (whatshername) lamely standing at the end looking tired and lost. (well, maybe we would because she couldn't even fill out 30 seconds!)
     
  8. Jul 8, 2013 #68 of 113
    That Don Guy

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    I doubt that any dancer doesn't know exactly at what point in the music the time expires (and, BTW, it's more like 45 seconds this year instead of 30, possibly because there are only four solos instead of six) and plans their solo around it. I expect that Nigel, Mary, and the choreographers would be able to tell if somebody was "ramping it up" once the countdown started. (Then again, I doubt that the solos have much, if any, impact on who is going to get eliminated - "Well, this is the sixth week in a row you have been in the bottom six, and you clearly can't handle any of the styles assigned to you, but your solos are so incredible that you need to remain in the competition.")

    Also, in my opinion, the show is no longer just about the dancers, but has become So You Think You Can Choreograph?; the only difference is, the prize is an Emmy, and the voters are the choreographers on the Emmy panels that choose the nominees and then the winners. This season has the added advantage that it will not have to compete against Smash, which won't have any episodes in the 2013-14 eligibility period.
     
  9. Jul 9, 2013 #69 of 113
    Kamakzie

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    Nice, they took viewer feedback and criticism and now eliminations happen at the end of the show now.
     
  10. Jul 9, 2013 #70 of 113
    That Don Guy

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    I doubt that "viewer feedback and criticism" had much to do with the decision - otherwise, the announcement of the bottom six and the solos probably would have been at the end as well.

    I also noticed that they not only got rid of the audience counting down at the end of each solo, but they didn't turn the set red for the final five seconds like they have in the past; however, it was obvious that Jenna knew in advance exactly when her solo would end, which is a little surprising as the solos all ran 38 seconds from when the music started.

    ADD: A couple of other things I noticed:

    They didn't save one of the three women (what is it with this show and "girls", anyway - is it a dance thing?) before the solos, like they did last week.

    Also, they weren't kidding when the credits say that, "Due to the nature of the dance profession, contestants and judges may have had interaction prior to the show" - Fik-Shun was in the final 18 of Paula Abdul's CBS show (from early 2011) Live to Dance.
     
  11. Jul 11, 2013 #71 of 113
    Cainebj

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    wow they have really presented him as a wunderkind with no training.
    so basically he's a dance reality show ho
    whose actually probably got more experience than most of the other contestants.
    his stock just went down.
     
  12. Jul 11, 2013 #72 of 113
    stargazer21

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    Btw, I just wanted you to know that I miss your breakdowns of the show every week.
     
  13. Jul 11, 2013 #73 of 113
    jehma

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    He went to a performing arts school for 2 years too. They love to portray them as completely untrained.
     
  14. Jul 11, 2013 #74 of 113
    murgatroyd

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    I heard someone make a comment in an off-stage segment make a comment where they made a distinction between the trained dancers who have come up in the more mainstream genres and "trained street dancers".

    I can't remember who it was; I'll have to go back and look for it. Could have been Fik-shun, but it might have been one of the choreographers, talking about melding two different styles.

    At any rate, the phrase "trained street dancers" caught my attention, precisely because it was in contrast to the kind of thing you pointed out, where the show likes to talk about "trained" and "untrained" dancers.

    "Untrained" may be dance-world code for "dancers who can't pick up someone else's choreography" but that's not the impression it gives to the non-dance-trained audience.
     
  15. Jul 11, 2013 #75 of 113
    Kamakzie

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    Thanks, I appreciate it. I've gotten lazy the last year or so. :D
     
  16. Jul 17, 2013 #76 of 113
    Cainebj

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    Was there no show last night or did my TiVo miss it?
     
  17. Jul 17, 2013 #77 of 113
    David Platt

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    No new show because of the All-Star Game.
     
  18. Jul 18, 2013 #78 of 113
    That Don Guy

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    Seven Emmy nominations:
    Reality-Competition Program
    Cat, for hosting
    Lighting design/direction for a variety series
    plus four for choreography:
    (remember, these are all from Season 9; also, "Top 20 #2" is the week where all 20 danced but then two were eliminated)

    Sonya Tayeh:
    Possibly Maybe (Allison Holker & Cole Horibe - Top 8)
    Turning Page (Tiffany Maher & George Lawrence Jr.- Top 20 #1, repeated in the finale)
    Sail (Audrey Case & Tiffany Maher - Top 20 Announced)

    Mandy Jo Moore:
    The Power Of Love (Tiffany Maher & Ade Obayomi - Top 8, repeated in the finale)
    Wild Horses (Lindsay Arnold & Cole Horibe - Top 16)

    NappyTabs:
    The Circle Of Life (top 10 & all-stars - finale)
    The Lovecats (Amelia Lowe & Will Thomas - Top 20 #1, repeated in the finale)
    Beautiful People (group number - Top 20 #2)

    Travis Wall
    Where The Light Gets In (female group - Top 20 Announced)
    Without You (Eliana Girard & Alex Wong - Top 10)
    Unchained Melody (Audrey Case & Matthew Kazmierczak - Top 20 #1, repeated in the finale)
     
  19. Jul 23, 2013 #79 of 113
    That Don Guy

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    After seeing the 7/23 solos, I am under the impression that the countdown timer is set to hit zero at the pre-planned end of the dancer's solo, as opposed to the dancers being told something like, "You will have exactly 40 seconds."

    Also, now that Jasmine Mason was eliminated, Jasmine Harper is "just" Jasmine now.

    One more Emmy note: the show can also win one for Costumes for a Variety Program - this is one of those "juried" categories that does not have nominees; instead, every entry is given a "yes" or "no" vote, which has to be pretty much unanimous in order to win an Emmy.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2013 #80 of 113
    MikeekiM

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    I haven't watched the episode yet...do they explain that in the 7/23 episode, or did you discover this somewhere else?

    I also had the impression that when the countdown hits zero, you better figure out a graceful way to end...
     

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