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So what happens now with late night TV?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by argicida, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. argicida

    argicida New Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    Spoilers about tonight's final Jay Leno show in the link


    So what happens now, a smooth transition to Jimmy Falon who is only 39? Or is there a Conan comeback or a move to get Letterman back?

    Jay say he may be back on TV just not late night. And Jimmy was really negative to Leno for taking back over from Conan does that hurt the transition?
  2. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Vegas Boy

    Apr 2, 2001
    on NBC, the Tonight Show moves back to New York City and will be hosted by Jimmy Fallon. There will be no comeback moves by Conan or to get Letterman.
  3. GoPackGo

    GoPackGo Active Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    I don't remember Jimmy Fallon being negative towards Leno. Are you thinking of Jimmy Kimmel?
  4. argicida

    argicida New Member

    Feb 16, 2009

    You're right my error.
  5. mattack

    mattack New Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    I don't even remember Kimmel being negative towards Leno even though he has been a HUGE Letterman fan all along. Though I admit I don't watch full episodes of Kimmel much. (I record basically ALL of them, and watch a few funny snippets here and there.. and watch letterman though I have a zillion banked up and sometimes just listen to the audio.)
  6. dslunceford

    dslunceford New Member

    Oct 19, 2000
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

    Aug 2, 2003
    "Jimmy" becomes the average (mode) name for all 11:35pm talk-show hosts.
  8. ewolfr

    ewolfr .

    Feb 12, 2001

  9. argicida

    argicida New Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    Boy, Fallon is really gonna have to be better on the Tonight Show than his Late Night tonight would indicate and surely they put a lot of effort into a show that all the people watching the last Jay Leno would see at least the beginning.
  10. Ereth

    Ereth Active Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    I wonder if Fallon will have the class to mention his predecessor in his first show, something that Leno did not do, and for which I've never forgiven him.
  11. argicida

    argicida New Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    Leno didn't mention Carson? That was tacky and now Leno calls Carson the greatest ever.
  12. GoPackGo

    GoPackGo Active Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    Correct, Leno made no mention of Carson.

    At the time, Leno was being advised by the biggest b in the world, and I believe it was her call.

    Fallon gets it. Lorne Michaels gets it. The same mistake won't happen on Fallon's first show, guaranteed.
  13. lambertman

    lambertman To see you, Nice

    Dec 20, 2002
    I'm more interested to see if Jimmy thanks Conan. (I've heard that it's because of Jimmy that the promos for his Tonight Show have what little trace of Conan in them that they do.)

    I think Conan screwed up in not taking the temporary 12:05 demotion, and Jimmy is the slightly-delayed beneficiary in that mistake.
  14. TomK

    TomK New Member

    May 22, 2001
    I think Conan screwed up by (1) moving to L.A. and leaving what worked very well and (2) bringing back Andy Richter.
  15. mrdbdigital

    mrdbdigital The TBS Archives TC Club

    Feb 2, 2004
    I think Leno is going to end up on CNN.
  16. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

    Jan 16, 2002
    The two Jimmys will duke it out for the title of #1 but the new King of Late Night Television is Lorne Michaels.

    I don't think that Fallon will do better than O'Brien's Tonight Show ratings in the long run but if he can attract enough of the younger demo, NBC will at least pretend to be happy with his ratings.

    I think the one who will really feel the squeeze will be Letterman as:
    A) He has nothing left to prove.
    B) He will be competing with Fallon (and Michaels) for a more limited pool of guests and I suspect that unless he gets another ratings boost, he'll get less of the A List guests than Fallon.
  17. trainman

    trainman Nice to see you

    Jan 29, 2001
    (1) The only thing he left was his location -- his entire staff went with him from New York to L.A.

    As far as I can remember, the concept of a Conan "Tonight Show" in New York didn't even occur to anyone; NBC was of the mindset that "'The Tonight Show' moved to Los Angeles in 1972, and that's it," so they started from that thought and built Conan the new studio at Universal, etc.

    (2) Obviously, it's a matter of personal taste, but I think Conan just "works" much better when he's with Andy than he did in the last few years of "Late Night" when Andy wasn't on the show.

    I'm not aware of any research that showed that the low ratings for Conan's "Tonight Show" were because of the presence of Andy Richter, but feel free to point me to something.
  18. argicida

    argicida New Member

    Feb 16, 2009

  19. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Active Member TC Club

    Mar 24, 2001

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