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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by gbruyn, Oct 30, 2013.
isn't that what I said? Mb/s = Megabits per second
MB/s = Megabytes per second
even 802.11b should give you a streaming speed of at least 6Mb/s certainly faster than what you are seeing.
By chance did you enable the WiFi on the TiVO at any point and then later move it to an ethernet connection?
That seems way too slow. It takes me about 35 minutes to transfer an hour of video on the highest quality, which isn't terrible, but not great. I have my TiVo hardwired to my AC1750 router. I'm streaming to my iPhone 5s. Will test again with my iPad Air once I pick it up this weekend.
Yes. I think I did have it hooked up to wifi initially... Why?
You need to "break" the WiFi configuration otherwise the TiVO goes back and forth between WiFi and Ethernet causing painfully slow speeds and possibly disconnects.
See these threads:
Basically unplug your ethernet connection, go to the WiFi configuration screen and set some invalid SSID/password combination, then reconnect your ethernet. That should improve things for you.
On second thought I was thinking about MoCa and not wireless. I double checked my router to see if the Tivo was trying to connect via wireless and it wasn't. So I don't think that is the problem.
The issue is with the software update. Maybe they limited the speed of the built in stream for heat issues --- like the previous posted said. Nothing else explains why it was fine and then it slowed down after the updated Tivo firmware and update Tivo app software.
P.S. Tivo just updated the iOS app and cited "Bug Fixes"... so maybe it'll be better? I'm away so I can't test it right now.
FYI I still have my standalone Stream so I ran a test. I transferred the same show to the same iPad using the Best quality, which listed 577MB for both devices. (I know the Stream doesn't have the new software because it only offered 2 qualities and the Roamio had 3)
Anyway the Roamio took 13 minutes and the standalone Stream only took 10. So it seems that the Roamio is a bit slower. Although I never ran this test before the update, so it could be that the Roamio has always been a bit slower. (i.e. maybe they underclock the chip a little to reduce heat in the Roamio case)
However now that I have numbers I'll run the test again once the standalone Stream gets the OOH update and see if it slows down to match the Roamio or not.
Just got the OOH update on my standalone Stream so I reran the test and sure enough the exact same file now takes 13 minutes through the standalone Stream too. So it's definitely the software on the stream itself causing the slow down.
OK, thanks for confirming. I wonder if it is related to OOH streaming at all or if it was done intentionally to reduce power consumption and thus heat? I seem to recall some Stream related heat issues in the past (both standalone and integrated into Roamio).
The standalone stream has the fan running almost all the time, maybe the reduced the clock a little to reduce heat.
You all are probably right about the heat thing. But I hope not. I'd like the speed to increase back to where it was.. Or even get faster. Maybe it's just a bug that showed up due to the OOH streaming feature. We will see.
Based on my test it's only taking an extra 3 minutes per half hour of video, so that only adds about 12 minutes to a 2 hour movie not double like you suggested in your original post. Not great, but not really a deal breaker either. It's still capable of transferring shows at about 2.5x real time meaning it should only take about 47 minutes to transfer a movie. That's still significantly faster then transferring to a PC, transcoding, and then syncing via iTunes.
I'm also experiencing very slow downloads now. Previously I was able to down load an hour show at best quality in about 20 minutes. Now a show at Medium quality takes over 30 minutes.
I sure hope that they fix this.
Hmmm... that doesn't line up with my testing at all. I was only seeing a marginal difference pre-post update. (i.e. 10 minutes for a 30 minute show at Best, vs 13 minutes)
Although the show I was testing was SD, I wonder if HD makes a difference? I'll have to test that.
Just to confirm, the shows that I've been attempting to download are all HD.
Also, I've tried an iPad Air and iPhone 5s - both very slow, so I don't think its a mobile device issue. I've also reset my Tivo network config and rebooted the Tivo. Tivo is connected via MOCA to a FIOS router. I have also switched wifi routers (turned off FIOS wifi and enabled WIFI on a Linksys router) to see if that made any difference.
So far everything points to the software change on the Tivo
Looking for an update...any solutions?
I transferred a 30 min show out of the house last night. Took about 30 minutes.
Now, in my house, it is taking about 25 minutes to transfer a 30 minute show.
Setting is Medium...about 300MB.
I have all the Roamios wired.
My iPad is an iPad Air. I am using Apple Airport Express as a wireless access point. On my iPhone, it says "Connection: Excellent:
This is frustrating to me. It seems like it should be faster.
Using this calculator...speeds should be much faster
I have heard anything either. My guess is that this slow speed might be here to stay. Maybe the posted to said it was a heat issue is correct. They did update the Tivo iOS app yesterday for "Stability Issues" but I doubt that helped with the speed. I'm HOPING it helped with the constant stopping/pausing of downloading shows outside the home.
.... Guess it's all a work in progress
Yes the update did fix the "every 5 minute pausing" issue for OOH downloads.
BTW, it is seems that the app and the iPad have to be on for downloading to occur. There is no background downloading at all. Other apps, like Downcast, will download for a bit in the background before stopping.
Why can't TiVo do this?
Downloading means I can't do anything else with my iPad for the 30 min to an hour it takes ONE show