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Sherlock season 4

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Big Deficit, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I think PBS should just stop renaming the British shows that they air over here. That would cause fewer issues, I think.
     
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  2. Hoffer

    Hoffer Eat Lightning ----- Poo Thunder

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    At least Sherlock is in the title now. Didn't it just used to be named "Masterpiece Theater" or something?
     
  3. pgogborn

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    Me also - but in a way it was inevitable - why would Sherlock take Watson on a case when he could take Mary (not that he is going to be taking Watson any time soon)
     
  4. eddyj

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    I was confused by the very last scene.

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    Mary tell Sherlock Screw You? Because he failed to save her?
     
  5. Jstkiddn

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

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    Yes. It was Masterpiece Mystery.
     
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  6. ThePennyDropped

    ThePennyDropped Now I get it.

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    Yeah, I'm not sure either.
     
  7. SWFan

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    The wife and I watched it last night and both of us did NOT like this episode. We thought maybe we were crazy for not liking a Sherlock episode so she checked online review and found that many others didn't like it either.

    It seemed all over the place and the episode wasn't really about Sherlock solving any particular crime which is what the show should be about. The stuff with Watson should really never have happened in the first place, but it came out front and center this episode.
     
  8. BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yeah, my wife and I were both not extremely satisfied with this episode. For one thing, the plot line with Watson and the lady from the bus seemed really out of character for him, and came out of nowhere.
     
  9. pgogborn

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    He did more than failing to save her, he kept on demeaning Vivian Norwood even though Mary told him not to - it was because of Sherlock demeaning Norwood that Norwood fired the gun that killed Mary.

    But I am wondering if there was an element of suicide in what Mary did. When the laser sight lit up Watson she saved him by pulling him to the ground, perhaps she could have saved Sherlock in the same way.

    As for motive for suicide - was the highly talented field agent unaware of Watson's liaison with the girl on the bus, was she unaware of the very strange language of his break-up text "I am not free". Was her suicide gift to Watson setting him free. Also she would know the truth of what Mycroft told Sherlock - that her sort would probably not reach retirement age. If yet another assassin turned up perhaps her daughter would also be killed, she was protecting her by dying now.

    I do not recall Mary telling Sherlock Screw You at the end. She called him a bastard half way through but that was admiration for his skills of deception
     
  10. pgogborn

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    Since my previous post I have looked at the final scene on BBC iPlayer

    She didn't say "Screw you", she said "Go to Hell", which could be something entirely different.

    I think she is telling Sherlock to save Watson even if it means going to Samarra for an appointment with Death.

    "Go to the Ends of the Earth to save Watson" would have been less pressure :)
     
  11. TonyD79

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    Just watched it. I loved it. It made total sense yet had twists.
     
  12. Shakhari

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    So, Ep 2, The Lying Detective.

    I liked this one better than the last, even with the surprise twist that came from nowhere.

    Well, OK, they did set it up in the last episode, but still ...

    In any case, the story seemed to be better plotted and more coherent. Probably just the difference between being written by Moffat instead of Gatiss.
     
  13. ThePennyDropped

    ThePennyDropped Now I get it.

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    I didn't enjoy this one as much as the first, mostly because I found the bad guy so incredibly repulsive and stoned Sherlock so incredibly annoying. Both were huge distractions to me. From now on, I forbid the Sherlock casting director from casting creepy looking actors to play creepy acting villains! And especially those with awful teeth! ;)
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

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    I'm pretty sure the teeth were fake...it sounded like he was having trouble talking around them, and I don't recall noticing him having such awful teeth in the past.
     
  15. Shakhari

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    Yeah, the teeth were distracting.
     
  16. astrohip

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    Houston &...
    The British and their teeth...
     
  17. pgogborn

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    This was a particular Brit.

    Yellow crooked teeth, Yorkshire accent, road running, given the hospital keys, favorite room the mortuary, charity worker, fixing it for children, friend of the establishment, darkest ever villain depravity hidden in plain sight - Jimmy Savile
     
  18. Shakhari

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    That makes sense I suppose. They did seem to focus on the teeth in a way that I thought they might have some significance.
     
  19. HerronScott

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    I really liked this episode too especially Mrs. Hudson's scenes but lots of great dialog and interactions between characters.

    Scott
     
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    Texans and their big mouths.
     

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