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Shark Tank OAD 09/21/2012

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by pmyers, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    The first guy with that surfboard machine is the perfect example of what I was talking about last week with hating when the Sharks collude.

    Having them fight all over each other to get a deal done was very entertaining!


    I agree with the Sharks when they were telling that guy with the cheater app that he should market it differently to widen the market (and make it more pallatable).
     
  2. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    297 bucks for dvds..the A 1 B2 things were kinda interesting though..if you were brain dead i guess they would work. and not everyone had a mother growing up to tell them how to match things..but the guy just seemed a little on the 'off' side..love how cuban liked the before guy!

    also i like when they do stick to their 24 second clock...shows them snooze or lose is real and they better make up their minds. .i think the surf board will become a treadmill..sitting in the corner with clothing hanging after the novelty wears off

    80 for ice cream isnt that bad..when i priced out some PSU creamery ice cream mailed it was pretty darn expensive. so custom ice cream would be worth something..too bad they wound up with zero
     
  3. Ment

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    Don't think the surfboard would be marketed for home use as least not as a focus. Probably more like a spin-cycle in gyms with instructors.

    Ice cream idea was good but the Sharks didn't want to buy into a venture where 70% of the venture was already off the table. No shark wants seconds from a shark. :)
     
  4. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    I totally agree. That deal was dead as soon as they mentioned they already had an investor who owned 70%.
     
  5. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    yea but whats the diff between getting 30 % of 100 vs 30% taking out of 70%

    that means the girls have 30, the sharks 30 and the other guy 40..assuming math is right..they werent gonna have control anyway..or is it that they didnt want to have 2 other 'partners?"
     
  6. Ment

    Ment Active Member

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    Sharks were never getting 30% at the most 15% (half of the gals share), dealing with another investor that 1) they don't know 2) has control of the company and might be averse to their suggestions to grow, change the company focus. Lets face it, people come to the Sharks as much for their networking and advice as money, and they wouldn't have as much influence over another shark.
     
  7. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    The sharks were totally right about the ice cream ladies, they didn't need an investor they needed a loan.
     
  8. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    thankfully i still have this at home because i swear the girls said the share would be out of the silent parnters share and he cant wait to work with the sharks!
     
  9. andyw715

    andyw715 Active Member

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    Thats what I thought, that the VC was giving up part of his 70% (30/55/15)
     
  10. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    They did say that, but I still don't think the sharks had any interest in working with an outside investor.

    I did find it interesting that the retail store was losing money.
     
  11. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    i confirmed that the share comes out of the silent partner
     
  12. inaka

    inaka Well-Known Member

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    Believe it or not, I could totally see that $297 DVD system being a gold mine, but maybe not at quite that high of a price. I thought the guy held up under the pressure really well, and he really is the brand.

    Most people probably thought workout videos would never work if they sold them for upwards of $150, etc. But then came Insanity, P90X, etc.

    With the right infomercial team and excellent video production values, I could see his system selling quite well actually if they package it at $199 and have a spot similar to P90X that airs on SpikeTV at night, etc. Yes, you have a smaller market, but you also have a highly targeted one. Then, you build off that by having a forum (similar to P90x) with affiliate links to apparel that works with his system, and who knows, down the road, you just design and market your own apparel with the system.
     
  13. Mikeyis4dcats

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    they didn't say it was losing money, only that the delivered product was more profitable.
     
  14. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Basically Garanimals for adults.

    That ice cream was RIDICULOUSLY expensive. Then again, I never buy Ben & Jerrys or anything like that either. (Well, I don't buy ice cream very much at all anymore.. but when I do, it's *typically* the "premium" Safeway brand, when it's $3/tub or lessÂ… and of course they did the shrinking machine.. used to be 2 quarts, now I think they're 1.75 or 1.5 quarts.)

    Darn, there was some other comment I had about one of the segments on this episode, but I can't remember.
     
  15. inaka

    inaka Well-Known Member

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    I thought Robert summarized it well.

    If you think of it as ice cream, then yes, it's expensive. However, if you think of it more along the lines of a personalized gift a la an edible arrangement, flowers, etc. it's not outrageous. Look at the prices for edible arrangements. After all, it's just fruit in most cases but its equally expensive and not nearly as personalized as the ice cream, IMO. I think it's a great idea.
     
  16. newsposter

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    id love to followup on the cheater app..barb was not happy they passed over her..must be a huge volume to make up that initial investment. i wonder how the thing hides the messages..dont gfs look thru messages too?
     
  17. Byteofram

    Byteofram Survivor of C-bus

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    My guess was that the message goes to directly to the app and you have to log into the app to get to the messages. That way when someone looks at your phone, they don't see those texts and emails and missed calls.
     
  18. mwhip

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    I agree the ice cream was expensive but no more expensive than flowers can be. I seriously will think about the ice cream next time for a friend instead of flowers. I think of it like the edible arrangements business model.
     
  19. newsposter

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    i like when they said are you really here for a deal..some people may not be..the ice cream sales have to have increased the past few days at zero cost to them
     
  20. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    They absolutely said the retail store was losing money (from what I remember).
     

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