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Series3 no longer working with Verizon Fios...

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by RWSkemer, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The answer is obvious.

    TiVo needs to take that lawsuit cash and start buying cable companies, and run them so much better than anyone else that consumer outrage forces outfits like Comcast and TWC to sell out to them.

    If cable companies can bring out their own DVRS, I see no reason DVR makers can't be in the cable franchise business.
     
  2. pmiranda

    pmiranda New Member

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    Haha, good luck buying cable companies... Cheaper to establish their own IP TV service but the problem is getting content. Maybe they could buy a smaller, local cableco to get a content package but that would probably only make money for the lawyers.
     
  3. TexasAg1996

    TexasAg1996 New Member

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    I asked about this over at dslreports. The folks there said there was no way Verizon could switch to MPEG4 without affecting all of their other boxes that can't handle MPEG4. Someone did say that this involved an expansion of Simulcrypt.

    According to something I read elsewhere, Tivo already updated its boxes to handle Simulcrypt, but CableCard manufacturers may not. I'm wondering if you have older CableCards that can't or won't be updated.
     
  4. RWSkemer

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    According to TiVo, it's hardware related. Both Verizon and TiVo are confirming this. Is what it is I guess.
     
  5. wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

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    I pity your poor friend. Any time we call them it takes at least 45 minute to talk to someone that will be guaranteed not to know WTF they're talking about and another hour before speaking to a half-dozen other that don't either. Three of those kinds of calls seem to be what it takes to solve anything with verizon.

    Thus far none of the channels they're upgrading are of any interest to us. But I'm going to pull the trigger on a Roamio to upgrade an S3 that's been acting up lately.
     
  6. caughey

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    I'm confused. Did anyone besides the OP get anything from Verizon?

    The Verizon message from the OP doesn't mention MPEG4 at all (at least the parts the OP paraphrased)--it only talks about Simulcrypt encryption. But FiOS started rolling that out in 2010: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/16/verizon-fios-simulcrypt-rollout-will-break-most-cablecard-tuners/ and TiVo patched their software to be compatible:
    Here's a theory:
    • FiOS is finally rolling out out simulcrypt in the OP's area and sends message (no idea why they would wait so long, or maybe computer sent message out late by mistake--but it explains why not everyone else was notified)
    • OP contacts TiVo and asks about losing FiOS channels on Series3.
    • TiVo CSR assumes OP is asking about more recent (2013) MPEG4/FiOS/Series3 issue which isn't fixed instead of older (2010) Simulcrypt/FiOS/Series3 issue which was fixed years ago
    Well, now that I've reasoned all that out, it seems dslreports came to the same conclusion: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28998541-Switch-to-MPEG4-for-all-non-local-channels-
     
  7. johncoyne

    johncoyne registered user

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    I received the same letter from FIOS, called TIvo to confirm and now the owner if a new Roamio Pro. I will actually be saving some money each month as I have two Tivo series 3 each with 2 cable cards. Roamio with 6 tuners will replace the 2 series 3 and it takes only 1 M card (saving me about $15 a month on cable card fees) plus I am saving about $20 a month on a single tivo monthly subscription? Thinking this is a blessing in disguise. I will be setting up the new system in the next week or so. All components have been delivered.
     
  8. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    I don't recall ever getting the letter from Verizon, but I believe I read somewhere that this isn't happening in all markets served by FIOS. It also only affects certain channels in your lineup in the areas where it's being implemented.
     
  9. RWSkemer

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    So this update, whether or not it went into effect, did nothing to change anything. I sold my two Series3 TiVos, but my friend, who has a Series3 TiVoHD, still has no issues. Why was I sent this letter then? So angry.
     
  10. johncoyne

    johncoyne registered user

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    Either way, I am just thrilled that I upgraded to the tivo pro. In the long run I will be saving around $20+more a month off my cable bill.....now only renting one cable card instead of four (yes, I had two tivos) and eliminated the need for an extra cable box.....BTW, I have two series 3 HD Tivos for sale if anyone is interested. Will take $35 each plus shipping.
     
  11. leepoffaith

    leepoffaith Member

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    Hey Guys,

    I'm new here, but I think I know why the series 3 can't tune certain channels but the newer Tivos can. All new channels that Verizon adds from now on will be MPEG-4. I would guess that 3 Series Tivos can't decode MPEG-4 so that is why you can not see these particular stations. It does not affect too many channels as of now (Listed them below) but I've been told that any new additions will also be MPEG-4. Hope this helps!

    MPEG-4 Verizon FIOS Stations:

    SD Channels 36, 54, 84, 100, 101, 105, 125
    HD Channels 558, 571, 592, 596, 597, 598, 599, 633, 674, 676, 695, 735, 744, 906, 907, 912, 913, 923, 924, 926, 928, 929

    It also includes all the MLB, NBA, NHL and Soccer League season pass channels and many of the Spanish Language channels.
     
  12. teasip

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    Your assumption is correct. TiVo series 3 units cannot, as presently formatted, receive MPEG-4 channels. Reportedly it is software related based on prior threads but TiVo will not be pushing any further updates to allow for this (older generation equipment).
     
  13. leepoffaith

    leepoffaith Member

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    Ok, good to hear! I wasn't sure that was clearly stated in the forum so I wanted to clear it up some. Thanks!
     

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