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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Refer to the above pictures (hint: picture is above title).

    Verizon FiOS charges $3.99 for each CableCard, regardless of type. One CableCard (M-CARD) supports both tuners in the TivoHD and TivoHD XL, whereas the discontinued Tivo Series3 model always requires two CableCards to support both tuners.

    There is no longer any charge for the CableCard installation.
     
  2. richsadams

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    As bkdtv points out above, you'd need two cable cards for the original Series3 ("M" or "S") but only one "M" card for a TiVo HD. I checked my bill and also as mentioned, each card we have is $3.99/mo. (I think the "first free card" was a Comcast deal we used to have.)

    Also as mentioned VZ no longer charges for initial installations.
     
  3. dforemsky

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    Anybody try to get them to come back out and replace the single stream cards with a multi stream? Would that be a free trip, as well?

    (I've been think about doing this to save the 8 bucks a month, but everything cablecard related is working now and I don't want to take the chance in messing it up!)
     
  4. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    +1

    Since I replaced my S3 with a THD, I can save 8 bucks/mo. as well. I have 2 S cards in my original THD I'd like to swap out ...
     
  5. bkdtv

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    You probably won't have much success if you ask FiOS to replace existing CableCards. But you can ask for an installation of new CableCards (where you'll get M-CARDs), and then when they get there, ask them to take your old cards with them.

    In my case, I ordered new CableCards (got M-CARDs), and then after they were installed, I called to return the S-CARDs. In most areas, they'll send you a prepaid envelope to return the cards.
     
  6. andrews777

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    How do you know they are going to bring M-cards? I would do this in a flash, since it would safe me $12/month (3 TivoHDs), but I don't want to ask them to come out to only get the same cards I have.

    Brad
     
  7. bkdtv

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    S-CARDs were discontinued 18 months ago and Verizon hasn't carried them in any market since late spring / early summer.

    Verizon installers don't have S-CARDs unless they were just removed from another customer's home in the past day or two. When the installer calls 30-60 minutes prior to their arrival, tell them you want M-CARDs so they can pick them up from the office if necessary.

    My installer in N. VA said he hadn't seen a S-CARD in almost ten months. All they have at the VA/MD office is boxes and boxes of M-CARDs.
     
  8. oViTynoT

    oViTynoT Obvious Forum Lurker

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    So that means S3 users are Out of Luck to get new cards if one fails?
     
  9. randyb359

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    I called an had Verizon come out to replace my s cards with an m card and they came at no charge
     
  10. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Not at all. Series3's can use either "S" or "M" cable cards...they just require two (one for each tuner) as opposed to TiVo HD's/HDXL's which have the ability to utilize one "M" card. I haven't heard of anyone doing so, but AFAIK you could use one "S" and one "M" card in a TiVo Series3.
     
  11. rija17876

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    If S-cards are no longer circulating, but they still work, does anyone have a spare so all I need is one M-card for my S3?
     
  12. bkdtv

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    You need a CableCard from Verizon. Verizon won't activate a CableCard unless they provide it.
     
  13. reg036

    reg036 New Member

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    Alright got a quick (and maybe repetitive) question, Fios only has M-cards now, the reason for my question is that I just got a S3 and I would like to swap out my two S-cards out of my HD box, put them in the S3 and just order a new M-card to go into the HD box. I called fiber solutions and they were taken back a bit about whether they had M-cards available and after 20 minutes came back with yes they do but the system only addresses 1 stream on them (I know sounds hokey to me too). TIA
     
  14. lew

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    The original S3 until will only address one stream. The Tivo HD and HD XL will access 2 streams and only requires one M card.
     
  15. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    Quick answer = your plan is fine. Transfer the 2 'S' cards to the S3 and order up a 'M' card for the THD. Accountwise, you won't even have to do anything special to move the 2 'S' cards from one box to another. I just replaced a broken S3 with a THD and simply popped the old cards into the new box - no calls to Verizon - period.

    In your case you'll need to pair the new card but the old cards are a no-brainer.
     
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    Jonathan_S

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    Verizon fortunatly doesn't bother to pair the card with a specific box, so you're free to move them between boxes without calling them. Other providers aren't quite so permissive.
     
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    Floridaman

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    I have the Tivo HD XL model dvr. I am using it with Fios and it has the current software 11.0D My signal strength is 100% on all channels and I subscribe to every channel. The SNR reading is 37 on all of the channels. I haven't had any issues with pixellation but just in the past few days have noticed audio drop outs. The sound will cut out for a second then it is fine for a few minutes and then does the same thing again. Tivo is telling me that the signal is way too strong and needs to be adjusted with an attenuator. They also believe this will take care of the audio issue. I thought the 11.0D software addressed these issues. Is the audio cutting out a problem related to SNR or is there a problem with the Tivo unit itself? Should I get an attenuator and if so what db rating should I get?

    Thanks
     
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    jap3

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    I have an original Series 3. I understand that whether I have an S card or M card I still need two. But will the M cards give me the ability for On Demand? Are there any other advantages of an M card over S card on an original Series 3?

    Thanks for your insight.
     
  19. Nov 3, 2009 #1819 of 2214
    SeanC

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    No, the M card will not give you access to On Demand. The S3 cannot access Verizon's On Demand in any way. On an original S3 there is no advantage of an M over an S card.
     
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    richsadams

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    As Sean said, no VOD w/TiVo and FIOS. With access to a number of Internet options plus Amazon VOD, Netflix and now Blockbuster we don't miss VOD at all. You can still get pay-per-view events by scheduling them w/Verizon and setting a manual recording on TiVo.
     

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