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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. May 2, 2009 #1561 of 2214
    wmcbrine

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    The automatic remapping works pretty well, except when it moves your HD SP to an SD channel, or the like.
     
  2. May 3, 2009 #1562 of 2214
    DCIFRTHS

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    I'm glad you mentioned that. I just switched to FiOS. I checked, and all my season passes were updated, but I didn't verify if they were all mapped to HD channels.
     
  3. May 3, 2009 #1563 of 2214
    bkdtv

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    When you switch providers, the To Do List may list your wishlist recordings on the wrong channels [for the next 12-14 days]...but it should still record from the correct channels.
     
  4. May 4, 2009 #1564 of 2214
    tdel73

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    so my hard-drive crapped out and TiVo is sending me a replacement. Does anyone know if Verizon will let me use the old cable cards or are they going to make a tech come out and install new cards?
     
  5. May 4, 2009 #1565 of 2214
    richsadams

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    IIRC you don't have to re-pair, etc. FIOS cable cards so you should be good to go.
     
  6. May 4, 2009 #1566 of 2214
    tdel73

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    that would be sweet, guess I'll find out in a week or so.
     
  7. May 7, 2009 #1567 of 2214
    Shades

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    Hey folks,

    I'm thinking of making the switch from Cox cable to FIOS and am trying to make sure that it makes sense before I pull the trigger. I have multiple Tivo units, but the one I'll be using primarily is an original series 3 unit, which I'm currently using with my cable setup (via two S-type cablecards) and its been working great, and is already up to date with the latest updates, etc.

    I've skimmed through several pages of posts here, and it seems like this shouldn't be a problem but I thought I'd post up and confirm... all I need to support FIOS is two M-type cablecards (since they don't use S-type any longer and the series 3 doesn't support a single M-type card for dual tuners) and connect the Tivo to the FIOS terminal, and I should be good to go?

    Are there any other caveats I should be aware of before I consider taking the plunge here? Will I need anything else special to make this work? Will I need to worry about running new lines to my Tivo, or will it run through the Coaxial lines I already have in my home?

    One of the big reasons I want to move to FIOS is because they have a lot more HD programming (and for some reason I can only get a few HD channels with cox with my current setup), so I want to make sure I can take the most advantage of that.

    Btw, I'm in the Northern Virginia area... there seem to be a number of locals on here, so I'm hopeful that others may have some experience with this transition from Cox to FIOS that may help assuage my fear of potential issues.

    If it matters, I'm planning to move my internet service to FIOS as well, but I would hope that would not impact the TV service.

    Thank you!
     
  8. May 7, 2009 #1568 of 2214
    dresden69

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    You would not need to run any new coax... The tech should be able to use your existing wiring inside the house to get service to that TIVO Box. Something that I have done in my house was made sure that all my TIVOs have a hard Ethernet connection to my router... This has made things like Netflix and Amazon work like a charm. (Along with my own home network). The 20/5 really allows Netflix to shine...

    Make sure you get the Extreme HD Package when signing up... this will give you all the HD channels that Verizon has to offer, and mention that you would to try the All Access package, it should be free for 2 months, and that would give you all the Movie channels.

    If you have any questions, feel free to message me.. would be more than happy to help out.
     
  9. John C

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    Hi tdel73,

    Let us know how this works out for you. My TIVO just died as well and they are sending a new one to us.

    I am also anxious about getting all to work again.

    John
     
  10. tdel73

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    will do...I should have the TIVO later this week so I will let you know...
     
  11. gtalvola

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    I got FIOS installed recently in Melrose MA and it's been working quite well. Once or twice there have been some glitches in the image but I used to get that occasionally with Comcast too. I've checked the DVR diagnostics several times and both the RS Corrected and RS Uncorrected are always 0 so I figure they are just transient glitches in the Verizon feed, not any problem with my setup.

    However, one thing I've noticed is that there are several non-HD PBS channels that are listed as having HD programs on them. For example, channel 470 WGBHDT is not actually an HD channel, but many of the programs in the guide listing show up as HD recordings. Which sucks if you are trying to use a wishlist to auto-record HD programs and you end up getting non-HD stuff recorded instead.

    Who would I talk to to try to get the guide data corrected?
     
  12. richsadams

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    From the Forum FAQ:

    That said, are you sure that WGBHDT is not an HD channel? The call sign indicates that it is. All of the programs may not be in HD, but anything they broadcast in HD should be on that channel. Their guide data shows both SD and HDTV programming.
     
  13. gtalvola

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    My tivo is set to native mode and that channel comes through at 480i resolution, so it's not HD. Channel 502 is the HD version of WGBH.

    Maybe Verizon is scaling an HD signal down to 480i on that channel but leaving the HD indicator in the guide data?
     
  14. wmcbrine

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    No, it only indicates that it's digital. Note that this in Fios' SD subchannels range (450-499); HD locals are in 500-549. Some PBS affiliates don't have their HD subchannel as their main subchannel (and some don't even have an HD subchannel). Then again, this could easily be a case where Tribune has flagged the channel as "WGBHDT" when it should be "WGBHDT2" or something. I've had that problem with some of the PBS affiliates here.
     
  15. richsadams

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    Ah, got it. I noted on the Zap2it listings that they are broadcasting or at least listing HD programming on that channel though. Odd. :confused:
     
  16. mae

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    We have the same situation here in Maryland with our PBS stations (Maryland Public Broadcasting and WETA). I think that the cause is the local affiliate. The program is probably an HD one and shows up that way in the Times Mirror data, but the local station broadcasts it in SD. It is particularly frustrating with some travel shows that you know are HD, are transmitted on the main, HD capable channel, but are shown in boxed 16x9 SD. One possible explanation is the local station has it recorded in SD, and really only can transmit it in HD during the actual HD feed from PBS.

    Having it occur nationwide with PBS affiliates kind of confirms my theory.
     
  17. wmcbrine

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    Zap2It = Tribune = TiVo's guide. An error in one is an error in the other.
     
  18. gtalvola

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    I reported the incorrect HD flag on channel 470 WGBHDT to Tivo. We'll see if it gets fixed.
     
  19. mae

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    Interesting info in this press release:

    http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2009/verizon-to-divest-wireline.html

    Some relevent quotes:

    The operations Frontier will acquire include all of Verizon's local wireline operating territories in Arizona, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. In addition, the transaction will include a small number of Verizon's exchanges in California, including those bordering Arizona, Nevada and Oregon.

    As of year-end 2008, these operations served approximately 4.8 million local access lines; 2.2 million long-distance customers; 1.0 million high-speed data customers, including approximately 110,000 FiOS Internet customers; and 69,000 FiOS TV customers.

    Also included are fiber-to-the-premises (FTTP) assets deployed by Verizon in 41 local franchises and the state of Indiana, which pass approximately 600,000 homes and small businesses. Frontier will continue to provide video services in these areas after the completion of the merger.
     
  20. richsadams

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    Interesting find. :up: Seems a little worrisome but maybe not. I wonder what they consider "...predominantly rural areas in 14 states..."? We're in a suburb of the largest city in our state (included on the list), but the population is only a little over a million and they still haven't run fiber optics to everyone here let alone to the folks out in the farmlands. Hopefully they'll continue their expansion plans or perhaps they're just letting this new company do the heavy lifting.

    I was surprised that the tech that showed up a few weeks ago to do our install was a contractor, not actually a VZ employee as others have experienced. Seems they are either unable to meet demand themselves or, based on this info, are moving their capital to other areas. Hmmm. :confused:
     

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