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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. calicant

    calicant New Member

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    Great news! Perhaps there is a chance I'll get M-Cards too.
     
  2. mae

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    Rich,

    How did the install go?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    Mark
     
  3. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    To state the obvious: Either had a great install, and is busy playing with all his new toys, or he had problems, and can't get here to post.

    Let's hope he's just busy playing !! :)
     
  4. mae

    mae member

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    I've noticed his posts on other threads, that's what raised my curiosity.
     
  5. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Boy...you guys are strict...um...I mean good! I wasn't trying to slide. I just wanted to give the new setup some time settle in and to to see if it was going to do something unexpected or perhaps expected before reporting back.

    FIOS is four by four as they say and all systems are go! :up: I'll post a more in-depth "review" of the install (all was not perfect, but eventually things were made right) in a couple of days or so.

    At the moment phone, broadband and most importantly TV are just about perfect. (Hope that didn't jinx anything ;) ) No attenuation and no A/V issues at all. Woo hoo! :D I haven't had the chance to view all of the channels at length of course (might take a lifetime) but the one's that have been recorded are showing no signs of any problems and skimming through some others looked good as well. I know it's been less than 48 hours, but one can only hope for the best.

    Be back soon!
     
  6. teasip

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    If you end up like me I've limited my exposure to pixelation issues by dropping most channels from my favorites listing. I basically use my OTA for locals and FiOS only for sports channels and Discovery channels. Even with the original, hot signal ONT I'm not having to use attenuation other than the provided attic splitter (even before modifying my favorites listing).
     
  7. Squirrel

    Squirrel New Member

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    Hi,

    The backstory (shortened): Was going to switch to Fios, have Series 2 Tivos. They came, installed everything but couldn't complete install. Needed to come back. In the meantime I realized I would lose the dual tuner option with my TiVo. Cancelled the install.

    Decided that I want Fios. I got an Series 3 HD Tivo which I believe I read would work. But with what? What do I need to ask Verizon for to get want I need. M-Cards? S-Cards? -- I have no idea what either of these are. Not technical.

    Also reading something about ONT??? Not sure what that is either. Can someone help me?

    Thanks!
     
  8. Ziggy86

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    Tivo Series 3 need two S-cards from what I remember. If you have the TIVO HD unit which is different from the Series 3 it can take either one M card or Two S-cards.
     
  9. Rolento76

    Rolento76 New Member

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    When Verizon did my install, they only brought M-cards and I have two Series3s. The Series3 will work fine with TWO M-cards.
     
  10. Squirrel

    Squirrel New Member

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    Also if anyone could tell me if there's anything else I will need to make my TiVo's work or need to tell the Verizon people that I may be unaware of.

    Thank you!
     
  11. mae

    mae member

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    As previously stated, the original Series 3 requires two cards (single or multi stream). A TiVo HD or HD-XL can use one multi-stream (M) card for both tuners. Your original post said you have an "HD", so if that is the case, you need to tell Verizon that you need an M card. Recent posts (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=386864 have been that is all they are deploying now, since Motorola discontinued single stream cards over a year ago.

    The ONT is an "optical network terminal", the white or grey box Verizon uses to convert the fiber to internet, phone and video. They furnish that as part of the install and will hook it to your cabling.

    If you have been using your Series 2 with a phone line, you can use that with the HD, but you should consider using ethernet or a wireless adapter.
     
  12. MookieDoug

    MookieDoug New Member

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    The one main thing I would suggest, before your install, is to make sure you go through your guided setup on new Tivo HD several days before the M-card installation. If after a day you don't have software version 11.x, force it to connect again to download the latest software. (And as someone previously said, it will be much faster/easier if you hook it up with a wireless adapter.)

    Finally, when they come to do the M-card install, make sure they follow the detailed instructions that Tivo supplies with the Tivo HD. If they do that, it should go very smoothly. (At least mine did.)

    And lastly, don't get confused between the early Series 3 Tivos and the Tivo HD. The new Tivo HD uses Series 3 technology (and even says "series 3" on the box in the description), but the new Tivo HD only needs 1 M-card. The old Series 3 Tivo needs 2 cards -- either 2 S- or 2 M-cards.
     
  13. May 1, 2009 #1553 of 2214
    toddeades

    toddeades New Member

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    Hi Everyone!

    While I've seen Verizon trucks in my area for months I finally saw a yard sign in my neighbor's yard today and FIOS is ordered. While I'm mostly excited about the internet speeds I had to add the TV package just for the cost.

    I've had a Tivo since 2002 and I'm currently with Time Warner. I have 2 Tivo HDs and 1 Series 2 (Single Tuner) box. I'll be moving all 3 over to FIOS.

    What should I expect at the install?

    What do I need to do with my TIVOs to prep them?
    Should I remove the existing CableCards and run setup?

    Can I use a serial cable between the STB and TIVO on my series 2 box?

    They will be out next Friday...I can hardly wait.

    I'm in Frisco, TX (Far North Dallas)

    Thanks!
     
  14. May 1, 2009 #1554 of 2214
    webin

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    I would take the cable cards out and do a total reset on the TivoHDs. I have no idea if that's really needed, but seems like a good way to clear out the information for the current cards. Then, on all of them, I'd run guided setup and enter your soon-to-arrive FIOS source. You won't be able to test channels, but it will get the tivos thinking in the right direction.

    Yes, you can use a serial connection between the Series2 and the Verizon STB, but I found the RF emmiter to be "faster" when doing channel changes and such.
     
  15. May 1, 2009 #1555 of 2214
    Rolento76

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    When I had my FiOS install done, I didn't remove the cable company cablecards until I was ready to install the FiOS cablecards. I didn't want to miss out on any recordings by pulling out the cards days before my install.

    After the ONT install and after my FiOS internet was working, I made sure that my TiVos had an internet connection. Then I pulled out the cable company cablecards and reran guided setup after the FiOS tech confirmed a good signal to the TiVos. During guided setup, we followed TiVo's recommended cablecard install instructions and everything worked fine.
     
  16. May 1, 2009 #1556 of 2214
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    Only if you're comparing it to dial-up. Wired Ethernet FTW.
     
  17. May 2, 2009 #1557 of 2214
    Distortedloop

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    While I don't disagree that wired Ethernet is generally preferable to wireless, it is definitely easier to put in place in many situations, and could be faster. Wireless G at 54mb/s is faster than the original Ethernet standard of 10mb/s, and Wireless N at 300mb/s is faster than the much more common Fast Ethernet standard at 100 mb/s. Obviously Gigabit Ethernet is the fastest of them all.

    Just depends on what router you're using.

    Besides, unless you're moving recordings back and forth off your TiVo to another device, the only thing you're moving over the network is some pretty small amount of guide data. Even for that, the actual broadband connection is most likely to be your bottleneck, since most will opt for 20mb/s speed, but even the substantially more expensive 50 is, in perfect wireless conditions, slower than the wireless G you're likely to end up with with the Verizon supplied router.
     
  18. May 2, 2009 #1558 of 2214
    toddeades

    toddeades New Member

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    Since all the channels are changing we will need to setup our Season Passes again....can his be done without having to delete each one individually? Can I do a reset of this without deleting all my recordings.
     
  19. May 2, 2009 #1559 of 2214
    sinanju

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    Your season passes should find the new channel locations. When I switched from Comcast to FiOS, I only redid season passes for shows that were only available on SD channels on Comcast but were available in HD on FiOS.
     
  20. May 2, 2009 #1560 of 2214
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    As sinanju said, you shouldn't need to make any changes to your SP's. TiVo will automatically remap them to the correct channels after FIOS is installed and you've run Guided Setup again (at which time you'll select VZ FIOS as your provider instead of your current provider). All of ours were updated perfectly. :up:
     

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