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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. ah30k

    ah30k Active Member

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    This photo doesn't show the bottom wording, maybe you can tell me what it says since mine is not very accessible. While you are at it, what is your definition of a "pledge to get it working"? In my humble opinion someone would have to actually promise or pledge that they would actually do it.

    Now if you are claiming they wanted to or hoped to or intended to or implied they would then you'll get no argument. Claiming they pledged to though is totally baseless and adds to the rash of posters on this forum putting words into TiVos mouth that were never actually said.

    http://www.gizmolovers.com.nyud.net/Photos/Series3-Review/Medium/TiVo-Box-12.jpg
     
  2. sinanju

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    It isn't there. There was a pic from CES, but I don't know if any production units were built with that text on them. Perhaps because the CES text suggests M-Cards couldn't be used in the top slot.

    It is, however, documented on page 102 of the original manual as a done deal. There is a caveat about M-Cards not being available at the time of the writing of the document but, as worded, doesn't mention anything about "intended" or "forthcoming" support:

    "Note: A single multi-stream CableCARD decoder installed in the bottom slot on the back of the DVR enables dual tuner functionality."

    That language hasn't been updated in the manual on TiVo's site: http://www.tivo.com/assets/kdb/TiVo%20Series3 HD Viewers Guide - Troubleshooting.pdf
     
  3. ah30k

    ah30k Active Member

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    Sinanju,
    All that you point to supports the claim that TiVo intended for it work. In fact, they thought that it would work until, well, it didn't. Such are the facts and not in dispute.

    Now show me where TiVo pledged to make it work as our esteemed colleague claimed they did.
     
  4. webin

    webin New Member

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    This isn't really anything that needs to be argued about. We have the fact that Series3 doesn't work with M-Cards in dual-tuner mode, and it doesn't really have anything to do with FiOS, the topic of this thread.
     
  5. sinanju

    sinanju Active Member

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    Why? I'm not the one claiming the made a pledge. Are you so worked up about this that you can't keep track of who claimed what?
     
  6. ah30k

    ah30k Active Member

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    When I asked wmcbrine to show me where TiVo pledged to make it work you chimed in with all of the references TiVo made that it would work (manual pages, web pages, etc) without caveating with 'intended' or 'forthcoming' wording. Sure sounded to me like you agreed with wmcbrine and his claim. Or maybe I misread your post.

    And yes, I do get worked up over stupid claims that TiVo promised this or pledged this that are totally baseless. Then others chime in and agree with the OP which just gets me even more frustrated. I should let irresponsible comments go without comment but can't seem to do that.
     
  7. sinanju

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    Apparently, you got so worked up you missed the part where I actually mentioned that wmcbrine was incorrect about the labeling on the production S3 vs the CES S3, contradicting wmcbrine and his claim.

    I was simply presenting facts. Apparently you think the facts have an anti-TiVo bias. Take a deep breath and get a grip.
     
  8. webin

    webin New Member

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    Boys. You have a thread to argue about the MCards. Stop doing it here, please. Or better yet, PM each other. Or better still, drop it. No one cares.

    //gets out the fire hose
     
  9. Timber

    Timber Active Member

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    -=Tim=-
     
  10. drew7777

    drew7777 New Member

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    I've had Fios for five weeks now and have been a Tivo customer for 5+ years. So far I love Fios for their picture quality and internet speed. However, customer service so far has been a nightmare. We tried their DVR and have deemed it inadequate.

    I am about to order a Tivo HD but am having problems getting Verizon to ship me cable cards. They are telling me they "can't" ship them and an installer must bring them to me for $79.99. So, who do I need to speak with to have them ship me cable cards so I can install them myself?

    Thank you,
    -Drew
     
  11. TheBar1

    TheBar1 Long Time Lurker

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    Drew - I'm pretty sure you are out of luck on that truckroll fee that Verizon charges for CC installs. Do yourself a favor, though, and ask if the Tech can bring you an M-Card as opposed to two S-Cards. The monthly fee is identical, so you could at least save a little on that.

    I've observed increasingly positive (but still mixed) results with folks getting the M-Cards from Verizon now. As a two S-Card user, the only thing that is holding me back from an M-Card order is that expensive truckroll fee. Oh well!

    Good luck!
     
  12. richsadams

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    Okay, okay. Not because of peer pressure mind you (well, maybe a little ;) ). Comcast just had a rate increase and pushed our monthly over $200. :eek: Enough! I'm calling the tech I originally talked to (the one that was aware that TiVo's in the area needed a little attenuation on a certain frequency/band) and set up an appointment. Hope all goes well...wish me luck!
     
  13. David Platt

    David Platt !Texas TCF Club

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    Yay!! Finally!! :D
     
  14. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Be nice...I know where you live...well, sort of. :D
     
  15. webin

    webin New Member

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    'Bout dern time, Rich!
     
  16. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Sigh. :eek:
     
  17. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    Attaboy. Welcome to the dark side :D

    Seriously, I doubt you'll regret it.
     
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    slimjim867

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    Just checking.
    Am I correct in assuming that as of today 2/5/09,
    that the S3 still does not provide dual tuner functionality with one M card?
     
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    richsadams

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    That is correct. With regard to cable cards, TiVo Series3's still require two "S" or two "M" cable cards. Money says single "M" card functionality with Series3's will likely never happen.
     
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    adamt56

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    How is the picture quality when viewed through the TiVoHD box when compared to the Verizon provided STB ?
     

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