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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. sinanju

    sinanju Member

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    You can do a release but, in my experience, the following renew will get you the address you had before.
     
  2. Distortedloop

    Distortedloop Member

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    That shouldn't be a problem (if it's even the case) in the context of the issue of trying to switch from the Verizon provided router to your own. Doesn't matter what public ip address you get on the new router, as long as your recognized by Verizon's routers upstream.

    Another option I didn't see anyone mention for the original person with the issue was you should be able to "clone" the MAC address of the Verizon provided router in your own router. Look around in your settings for that feature. Then any connection back to the network, Verizon will just think you're the router they provided to you.
     
  3. SeanC

    SeanC ECT

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    Ah, yes. I have seen this but only in one specific situation. Only their CrAptiontek (I think I'll copyright that :)) can do it.

    I've had several different Linksys routers (all with DDWRT), and my laptop hooked up directly to the FIOS, none of them could do a release. That is to say, we could send the command, but trying to switch to another device, the new device would not be able to pull an IP.

    When I have to troubleshoot with FIOS I put the CrAptiontek in as the primary router. When we're done and my internet is working again I can go in and do a release on the CrAptiontek and switch back to my Linksys. I've done that many times, and it does work.

    I suppose it could be a minor bug in DDWRT.... but then that doesn't explain why XP can't release it.

    Have you done the release with anything other than the CrAptiontek?
     
  4. SirWells

    SirWells Guest

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    Ok, so I should redo the how to make the Actiontec a bridge via these instructions:

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17679150-Howto-make-ActionTec-MI424WR-a-network-bridge

    Then change the IP address of my Dlink. I think the DNS and Subnet are the same. Do I then reboot both routers or just plug them together (via both LAN ports)? Do I plug my hardwire connections into the DLink then? I don't have to mess around with renew or release of IP addresses? I just don't want to have to call up Verizon again because my router locked me out again. That was not fun...

    After what I did last time, I wish I had step by step instructions with accompanying graphics to match. LOL...
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I find the easiest way to use my Actiontec and Dlink DGL4500 together is to have the Actiontec connected to the ONT. That way if there are ever any problems, it's already connected to the ONT since FIOS typically won't trobleshoot anything if you don't have the Actiontec connected.
    Then connect the WAN port of the DLINK to a LAN port on the Actiontec.
    Then assign a DMZ to the IP address that the Actiontec gives the DLINk. Mine is 192.168.1.2.
    And then my 40 devices are all connected to my Dlink DGL4500. The only FIOS device connected to the Actiontec is my HD STB I use for HD VOD, but that is connected with MoCA over the coaxial cable.
    My Dlink assigns IP addressess to everything but the FIOS STB. I've used an IP range of 221.214.xx.xxx for over 10 years, but it's also easier for me to remember.

    I have zero problems this way. Never a need to reboot the Actiontec or the Dlink, even with three VUDU boxes using P2P constantly uploading 24/7. Zero problems gaming with my three Xbox 360s. Zero problems with my TiVos. Zero problems with me having over 1TB of traffic every month. No reboots needed. I get my full 50mbs down and 20mbs up. I've been using this setup for over a year now. Previously with a DGL4300. It has no problems.
     
  6. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    I don't remember doing anything special to configure the Actiontec for bridge mode. I would ignore that DSLReports article for now.

    Otherwise, I have it set up like Aaronwt. Instead of creating a DMZ on the DLink I just turn off the firewall - the firewall is turned on on the Actiontec. I also connect LAN port to LAN port - I found problems connecting to the DLink WAN port - but whatever works. Actually, now that I look at it again I have both the WAN port and a LAN port connected
     
  7. SirWells

    SirWells Guest

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    So I don't have to configure the Actiontec at all? Just turn off the firewall on the Dlink and connect Lan to Lan? Wouldn't this still leave the small Nat table?
     
  8. pilotbob

    pilotbob New Member

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    Yes. If the Actiontec is doing the NAT/DHCP. But, give it a try. I'm pretty sure Actiontec has an updated firmware since all this talk of their NAT table issues. Perhaps they resolved it. I know many people who love the actiontec and have no problems with it.

    BOb
     
  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I have yet to have any NAT problems. My only actiontec log entries are ip renewals. And my 3 VUDU boxes are running P2P 24/7. And even when I've used UTorrent and run it for several days straight, no problems. No need for a reboot.
     
  10. jay_man2

    jay_man2 jay_man-also

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    Just an update to my earlier posts. After having FiOS a couple of days, I did notice the pixelation and audio dropouts, but only on ESPNHD with the TiVo.

    I ordered the attenuator pack from Smarthome, and put a -20 attenuator on the TiVo coax. That dropped the signal strength and signal to noise ratio, and has solved that issue.

    Very happy camper here. And I was able to disconnect Comcast right at the end of a billing period. Sweet. :D
     
  11. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Thanks for that! :up:
     
  12. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

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    I'm almost possitive that I did a release from XP before renewing on my linux box.

    We were troubleshooting initial connection problems (which turned out to be a screw-up on their end, when they bumped my speed from 5/2 to 10/2 they apparently input my info on the wrong switch and effectively cut off my service) we'd eleminate both my normal linux box router and their actiontek (which I'd dug out of storage) and were using XPs built in DHCP to try to eliminate variables.

    Once we got it working I'm 99% sure I dropped the DHCP lease from my end before hooking my linux router back up.
     
  13. SirWells

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    One of my HD channels (HDNETMovies) stopped working last night on one of my Tivos, while it works on the other. Do the cards in that box need to be hit? [EDIT: Two days later, the channel is now working. Who knows?]

    There are also channels that do not appear on Verizon's guide, yet the Tivo picks up, however, I receive no picture or sound from those channels, just a gray screen. Maybe these are stations that will be added in the future?
     
  14. naclone

    naclone New Member

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    just wanted to share my recent FiOS experience...

    was a bit of a nightmare initially as my scheduled install window came and went with no tech appearance until several hours later. When the guy showed up he didn't have the cable cards i ordered, nor did he have his Verizon ID so my building staff would not grant him access to the basement. so, a totally wasted day for me. but i rescheduled.

    I was porting my phone number over from another carrier and verizon assured me that despite missing my scheduled installation, my existing services would not be interrupted. Well, they were.

    I called back and insisted they expedite the install for an earlier time than I had rescheduled, which they did. Sort of.

    When i called to confirm a few days later, they didn't have the new date in the system. just the original reschedule.

    Finally got a new install date/time (yesterday) and the guys showed up on time and quickly blew through a triple play install in about 2 hours.

    despite telling the guy that i would not be using VOD or the verizon guide data and did not want to use the actiontec, they told me it wasn't optional and had to be installed.

    the cable card process was a breeze and the only real hang up was fios not coming up as a provider for my zip code during guided setup so i just plugged in an alternate one.

    so far so good with regard to pixelation (i haven't seen any despite running at about 36 SNR). I have some attenuators and supposedly there is a low-pass installed in the basement of the building. not sure if it is relevant or not but i noticed with RCN that the SNR was also around 36 and never had pixelation, so i am hoping that continues.

    overall i'm very happy despite the initial frustration with scheduling. i've just found the NIM100 thread so i am interested in checking that out and possibly bypassing the actiontec in favor of my belkin n1.
     
  15. killzone

    killzone New Member

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    Since you mentioned triple play, I assume you are getting internet access..

    Unless you have another MoCA device or router, you need the actiontec for internet service.
     
  16. naclone

    naclone New Member

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    well, i have a wireless router already so i was hoping they could use that instead since i just purchased it recently and have no need for MoCA.
     
  17. webin

    webin New Member

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    Not entirely accurate. Internet can also be sent from the ONT to the router via Ethernet. Though it sounds like in this situation, running an ethernet cable from the basement to the user would be problematic... making the existing coax (moca) the best option.

    What you can do is use your new wireless router as a secondary router, so the coax connects to the actiontec, and then you connect your router to that and run your computers from your own router. You'll want to look around this forum a bit for that discussion.
     
  18. naclone

    naclone New Member

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    didn't realize til i looked just now that the actiontec has both an ethernet cable running to it as well as coax. i thought it was just connected by ethernet.
     
  19. socalclimber

    socalclimber New Member

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    I had FIOS Triple Play installed 2 weeks ago, and am happy with FIOS so far, and love the Internet speed 20/5 and HD Exteme TV. I don't mind the advertized price of $109 per month sans taxes(Claremont/Pomona, CA), except that I didn't know that the STB was NOT included in that price, nor have I gotten a bill yet, so I hope I'm not too surprised.

    I also ordered a cablecard for my TivoHD. Installer came and did install, but did not bring any cablecards, nor did order say that I ordered a cablecard. And, he said that he never installs cablecards.

    I call Verizon back and stated my frustrations that cablecard was lost in the order and they installed an HD DVR STB instead. After reading up on S-cards vs M-cards, I knew I wanted an M-card for my TivoHD, and Verizon is charging $3.99 per month for those.

    I happen to be sick today, so don't mind being around for cablecard install at 10-12noon. No one shows, then they call 12:30PM and say they will be late. I happen to ask to confirm with installer that he is coming with a cablecard, and this should be an M-card, right? He is clueless and says that his order says to install a STB. I say "No," this is a cablecard install for my TivoHD. He says he'll get back to me.

    4pm, installer shows up, and says his supervisor will be here shortly with the cablecard. I am hopeful. Supervisor finally shows up at 5pm with cablecard and one of them reads off serial number, and I copy that down (just in case). He inserts card into TivoHD slot#1, and I immediatey see card pop up in tivo screen, BUT it's an S-card!

    I say, "that card is an S-card, and I ordered an M-card."

    The supervisor says, "What's the difference?"

    I say, "M-cards can decode 2 channels, and S-cards only 1 at a time."

    He says, "Oh, let me check on that."

    He calls his supervisor (at regional yard) and he says they can't get the M-cards (or maybe they choose not to). I ask if they can special order one, as I'd prefer NOT to pay the extra $3.99 per month for a second S-card. He talks with 2nd supervisor, and confirms that they don't have the M-cards, and they CANNOT or Will Not order one for me.

    So, I'm frustrated with Verizon over this issue, and will likey just order 2x S-card and be done with it. I think Verizon is too big to give good service, or my service area is below par with rest of nation.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that they say they can't get me an M-card, and I live in a suberb of LA-one of the largest cities in the US-so you would think that Verizon would have M-cards here??
     
  20. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    IIRC only a couple of other folks here have been able to get "M" cable cards from VZ. Apparently a majority of the areas they serve only have "S" cable cards.
     

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