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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Oct 19, 2006 #121 of 2214
    snathanb

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    Now where did I put those spare ONTs?
     

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  2. Oct 19, 2006 #122 of 2214
    bilbo

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    no, what is pure crap is that i was thinking of getting showtime, and comcast wants to charge me an additional $19 on top of my nearly $100 monthly bill. Plus I need a digital converter box (because the channel for Showtime is around channel 320, i believe) for $5 per month just for the privilege of getting Showtime (tmc comes with it too -- woo hoo). So to pick up one channel my Cable bill would go up almost $25 (to over $120 per month)?

    even with a $50 rebate, it hardly seems worth it. and i no longer get espn classic or cmt because it has been moved off of expanded basic (but i got a letter lauding comcast's improvements). know how much fios charges for showtime (plus tmc and starz and ifc)? $12 per month.

    plus fios is under $80 per month for more channels and better quality internet connection than comcast can provide (hey brian roberts, i don't care about your speed burst advertisements because all my neighbors are sucking up the limited bandwidth you have provided for my block).
     
  3. Oct 19, 2006 #123 of 2214
    TexasAg

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    Personally, I've had Fios (Internet and TV) for a year, and it's been rock solid (other than the piece of junk DVR they use and possibly some glitches in the TV signal).

    But hey, what do I know. Clearly, based on this informative, rational post, I can honestly now say I'M DOOOOMED!
     
  4. Oct 19, 2006 #124 of 2214
    winpitt

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    So you're saying it's not rational? Do you have any knowledge of how Franchise Agreements work? The Telecommunications Act of 1996? "Cherry-Picking"? Build-Out Requirements? Right to Carry"

    I am absolutely not saying that the FiOS Service isn't a great offering. That's not the point at all. The point is that changes to the existing law will have a strong negative effect that - while possibly not affecting you personally, at least yet - will most certainly affect a lot of other people.

    If you would care to intelligently discuss this I'm game.
     
  5. Oct 19, 2006 #125 of 2214
    winpitt

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    I can point you to the actual legislation, but depending on where you are the state stuff will vary. The federal stuff is related to HR5252 and Senate Bill 2628.
     
  6. Oct 19, 2006 #126 of 2214
    TexasAg

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    No, I'm saying your post was a nice little rant about how Verizon won't talk to you and your LFA. I'm not surprised you feel this way. Verizon is trying to deploy a huge fiber optic network to deliver voice, data, and video services in numerous states. Rather than trying to negotiate with individual towns, they've chosen to try and get statewide franchises for the video service. Given the fact that they are bypassing you and your LFA to get a franchise, I'm not surprised you're bitter.

    Personally, I don't give a flip if Verizon won't install their highly expensive fiber optic network in neighborhoods where they likely can't recover the cost for years and years (if ever).

    However, since this is a thread discussing the S3's compatibility with Fios, how about complaining over in AVS, dslreports, or another thread in a different forum here dedicated to the evil that is Verizon?
     
  7. Oct 19, 2006 #127 of 2214
    musicforme

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    Thought I would let y'all know that I posted over on Broadband Reports last night about my Fios and Tivo issues. Some people think that it might a splitter issue, either a bad splitter in the chain or that the ONT is putting out too strong of a signal and a splitter is needed to lower it.

    Either way, I'll be dinking around with those tonight and see if it makes a difference.
     
  8. Oct 19, 2006 #128 of 2214
    TexasAg

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    I didn't realize how hot the signal was until I put 9db of attenuation on mine, and the Tivo still showed a 96-97% signal strength. It's quite a bit stronger when the signal is generated at the side of your house compared to down the block.
     
  9. Oct 19, 2006 #129 of 2214
    winpitt

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    No, you are incorrect - completely. My statements are about how Verizon is refusing to talk to LOTS of franchise authorities, and is demanding the elimination of a number of critical provisions of existing law. I am not bitter. I am (as well as others) fighting this as it is counter-productive and only provides negative value to the consumer at large. Build-out requirements are only part of the equation. Service is yet another part.

    But, it's nice to know that you don't care about anyone else.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2006 #130 of 2214
    TexasAg

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    Which has nothing to do with whether the S3 is compatible with Fios.

    And I do care about others, just not whiners. :)
     
  11. Oct 19, 2006 #131 of 2214
    winpitt

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    So then I suppose that your definition of a whiner is somebody with an interest not the same as yours.

    Oh well.
     
  12. Oct 19, 2006 #132 of 2214
    TexasAg

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    Nope, to me a whiner is someone who hijacks a thread to complain about a company they don't like.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2006 #133 of 2214
    winpitt

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    Again, another misrepresentation. Don't have an issue with Verizon and can certainly understand why they're trying to do what they are. They've done a great job spinning this (as evidenced by your position). I guess I actually have a problem with people like you who for whatever reason rudely criticize others who are trying to actually discuss the merits and facts.
     
  14. Oct 19, 2006 #134 of 2214
    TexasAg

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    Yawn. You don't like Verizon or their actions (you can pick which), start a thread in the appropriate forum complaining about it. (And feel free to call all of us who don't buy your position victims of "spin").

    Your posts here have absolutely nothing to do with the Fios service's compatibility with the S3 (or ANYTHING to do with the S3, for that matter).
     
  15. Oct 19, 2006 #135 of 2214
    musicforme

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    Guys, please take your franchise agreement stuff to private messages. I'm almost to the point of putting you both on my ignore list.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2006 #136 of 2214
    Dmon4u

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    The whole Franchise discussion was beaten to death over at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590208

    The one guy that was stomping on Verizon stayed for a while, then got frustrated and went away.

    The ultimate 'trouble' these Town Councils and other local groups have can be summed up by the Town that wanted Verizon to pay for a Statue of the Mayor or the one that wanted them to pay for the cost of maintaining the community Swimming Pool or other towns that had other such local necessities. In my area Comcast pays for a local Festival and chips in an additional $150,000 for a 'bonus' into the town coffers. I wonder how Comcast (meaning the local subscribers) can afford this ?

    Check out all the further comments over there and add your own to start another round of misery !
     
  17. Oct 19, 2006 #137 of 2214
    winpitt

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    OMG. What complete crap. Please do not send out clearly completely wrong information about this. Just for your information, Franchise authorities don't get "Statues" or any other sort of revenue. There is only one thing that the community gets in terms of financial returns from the cable providers, and that is ONLY franchise fees - which even the state or federal proposals provide. If your community sucks that bad I'd suggest that either you are simply repeating false rumor or your community just sucks. The only non-financial benefit the municipality can get is in the form of Public Access TV. That means a local municipal TV channel(s) for non-profit use. Additionally, those franchise fees are paid by the consumer and passed on to the local municipality - basically a tax. Therefore franchise fees have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this debate.

    Please learn what you're talking about. Don't mean to be rude, but can't tolerate false statements like this. I'm not accusing you of lying, but possibly of swallowing some BS story.
     
  18. Oct 19, 2006 #138 of 2214
    Dmon4u

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    Move your comments over to the other Forum and we could continue this.

    My last comments here are:

    Funny, the Comcast (my local) info is printed in the regional paper (The Patriot-News) and nearly every other local paper every year. Seems odd they'd lie about this.

    The other info has been around since the first franchise agreements and negoiations have come to light over the last year or so. If I recall, all these were posted and confirmed over at BroadbandReports.

    As for my area, my Hummelstown Borough Council info is documented by the Newspapers and Town Officials. Much of this info including copies of Newspaper stories were posted at BroadbandReports. The Borough Councils story was that though we were first in our area to get FiOS, they punted the Sept. 28th 2005 (this after a month of delay) vote on a TV Franchise agreement to the WSCOG (West Shore Council of Goverments) supposedly because of costs. Also minutes of an August meeting came out showing that this was all a forgone conclusion http://hummelstown.govoffice2.com/v...ds/{F2BDC492-C09E-42C7-843C-36B6B06B3B29}.PDF and not something that was delayed. The real story, known to members of the Council (some, friends of mine) and also printed latter, was that they wanted more Traffic Lights to be put up and all of them to be paid for and maintained by Verizon. None of this is disputed in my area, by anyone. Only frustration by certain Borough Council Members at not getting these 'extras' caused this whole communitee to be stranded without a TV Franchise agreement with Verizon.
     
  19. Oct 19, 2006 #139 of 2214
    winpitt

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    We can move this to another thread, but not another forum. And if you have proof of the above, start a thread and show it. To me (having a great deal of experience in this area) it is nonsense.
     
  20. Oct 19, 2006 #140 of 2214
    JohnBrowning

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    We get the point!! You don't like VZ or how they do business. That's fine, that's your right, and you've made yourself very clear. I don't have a problem with the statewide franchise. I see no need for every dinky town across the state to get involved. I'd prefer EVERYONE have free access to the utility easements, as long as they meet quality and workmanship standards, without every junior politician in earshot demanding the "right" of approval. Its called "competition" and its good for everyone. The competition VZ has brought to my town has given me a new choice, a better quality product, and lower prices.

    +1 to the Free Market!!
     

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