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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Music to my ears...um, eyes! :up:
     
  2. SirWells

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    Another question. With Time Warner Cable, the only shows I could copy to my hard drive or send via MRV were the the basic stations, CBS, NBC, Fox, ABC, PBS, etc. How is Verizon as far as blocking certain channels from being sent to other Tivo's for MRV or sending to a hard drive? I understand that premium channels won't work but Discovery or History Channel?
     
  3. Gregor

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    HBO is copy protected on my system. don't see restrictions on other premium channels. Discovery and HC have no restrictions.
     
  4. SirWells

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    Just to clarify, if I did have coax running to the Actiontek, turned the Actiontek into a bridge to my DLink router, would I experience the same upload and download speeds as I would if I had Cat5 connected from the ONT directly to my DLink router?

    I plan to ask the Verizon installer to give me a dedicated Cat5 line from the ONT. I just was curious in case he wouldn't do it...
     
  5. David Platt

    David Platt !Texas TCF Club

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    At least in the Portland market, nothing is copy-protected. I've never run into a show I couldn't transfer. I just did an HBO program to make sure.
     
  6. wmcbrine

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    Bandwidth would be the same, but latency might be affected.
     
  7. richsadams

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    Yep, MRV is no problem here...but I can't transfer HBO, Showtime and some programs to my computer due to copy protection.
     
  8. SirWells

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    I remember how excited my wife and I were were MRV was finally enabled and then we discovered we couldn't copy anything! Time Warner Cable red flagged everything except channels you'd pick up over their air. I'm so excited for my installation tomorrow!
     
  9. SirWells

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    I think I remember now about reading something on DSL Reports that the latency would be around 10 milliseconds. Regardless, I'm going to try my best to have the Verizon tech run me a dedicated Cat5 line.

    I live in a garden apartment so there are multiple ONT boxes that are shared around the development. The ONT box that is closest to my set of buildings is literally on the outside all of my apartment. Probably the easiest install as the wiring would be minimal compared to other apartments in the complex. From what you have all said and even the person I spoke to with Verizon, these techs will do basically anything you ask them to. Keeping my fingers crossed.
     
  10. David Platt

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    That's really weird, since we're basically in the same market. I can transfer anything, including HBO/Showtime shows, to my computer with TiVo Desktop.
     
  11. richsadams

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    Reworked the proposed network...

    [​IMG]

    Make sense? TIA! :up:
     
  12. richsadams

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    That is strange. I don't have my PC hooked up anymore, but copy protected shows showed up with the "no" symbol next to them on TiVo Desktop. Using iTiVo on my Mac copy protected recordings don't even show up. :confused:
     
  13. SirWells

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    My Verizon installer is on his way. The only thing that's worrying me is he said he just got a crash course on how to install them from his boss, as he's never done a cablecard installation before! At least I know what to do on the Tivo end, hopefully this goes well!
     
  14. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    Much better. No reason that shouldn't work :up:

    When are you pulling the trigger on the FIOS install?
     
  15. richsadams

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    Thanks very much!

    I'm still dragging my heals when it comes to the actual install. Many here are enjoying FIOS problem-free, but then others are experiencing different levels of frustration. I realize that when things are good people rarely join a forum to say so, but still. I'm one of those borderline perfectionists that fusses whenever A/V glitches occur. It makes my wife, um, uncomfortable when I say something in the middle of a movie or whatever.

    To be honest, our Comcast setup (more or less what you see in the schematic) is working fine. I'm just hungry for better HD PQ and that big broadband pipe. Plus it'll save some money every month (for the first year or two anyway).

    I'm really grateful for your and everyone's feedback here though. :up: I discussed it with a VZ tech that was at a house down the street recently and starting spitting out all sorts of details that I'd picked up here. He said that he should just hand me the cable cards, attenuators and let me do the installation myself since it sounded like I knew as much or more than he did (in a very nice way). I don't think so! Who would I blame if something went wrong?

    So I'm struggling with the "if it ain't broke..." syndrome. The fact that my wife is starting to hurt herself from rolling her eyes when I talk about it is getting a bit old though. Either way it's not making for a good and loving relationship with TiVo or my wife so I need to get off the fence/pot soon. ;)

    Thanks again!
     
  16. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    You can always go for the FIOS broadband now and fuss over the TV later - that's what I did. At least that will get the ONT infrastructure in place - you can add the TV and CableCARDS/STB later and cancel within 14 days if you're not happy. The good news is that you can use the existing cabling. The bad news is if you need to cancel dealing with Verizon billing is another nightmare in itself.

    I understand the WAF - been there done that. I can say that, despite some rare PQ issues, I don't regret making the move from Cablevision for a nanosecond.
     
  17. naclone

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    I have verizon coming to do an install on Friday. I have an S3 and a DT, both of which currently connect wirelessly via a belkin N1 vision. a few questions in preparation of the install:

    1. do i need to do anything before removing the RCN cable cards that are in the S3 now? or is it as simple as powering off the unit, taking them out and replacing them with the verizon cards and rerunning guided setup?

    2. is there anyway i can get the verizon tech to set everything up so that I can still use the belkin N1 or will I have to reconfigure things myself after he's left (just wondering if their policy is to only set it up one way or if there is flexibility)?

    3. what is the current best practice with regard to attenuation/diplexing? should i make sure the tech brings along equipment for this or should i just see how the install goes? it's difficult to ascertain whether the pixelation issue is universal or less widespread.

    I've read all of this thread and the other fios thread, but a lot of it is still over my head unfortunately. any tips prior to the install would be greatly appreciated.

    otherwise, i'll just hope for the best.

    thanks!
     
  18. jay_man2

    jay_man2 jay_man-also

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    When my install was done recently, we did not even power off the S3. I just pulled the old Comcast cards out, the FiOS tech installed the new cards, then we got the data off the screen for each card, he input the data into his laptop, and a few minutes later we were doing the channel test on both cards. Very easy.

    After he left I reran guided setup, and later that evening all my season passes had properly been remapped to the new channel numbers.
     
  19. wmcbrine

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    It's not weird. He's not on Fios. You're talking Fios, he's talking Comcast.
     
  20. naclone

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    thanks. sounds fairly painless.

    anything else i should keep in mind? this kind of thing always stresses me out.
     

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