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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Jun 19, 2008 #941 of 2214
    rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    +1 :up:
     
  2. Jun 19, 2008 #942 of 2214
    richsadams

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    Well, after reading this Verizon press release it would seem it may be closer than we think.

    Woo hoo!

    Enjoy your new HD PQ! :up: Can't wait to see VZ FIOS on our Series3 and THD too.
     
  3. Jun 19, 2008 #943 of 2214
    guitarded

    guitarded New Member

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    Fios will work but youll need cable cards or a box, the tivo guide still will work, remember it connect through the phone line or internet to get that info, it doesnt get it from the cable company, plenty of tivo lovers have fios
     
  4. Jun 20, 2008 #944 of 2214
    dalesd

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    Is this a 942-post deep smeek? Is that a record?
     
  5. Jun 20, 2008 #945 of 2214
    richsadams

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    Ha! Good one! :up: :D
     
  6. Jun 22, 2008 #946 of 2214
    Gerhard

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    Hey, anyone in the DC / VA / MD area notice any changes or issues with their S3 / Verizon service on Friday?

    Gerhard
     
  7. Jun 22, 2008 #947 of 2214
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    Friday? Nope.

    Yesterday? TiVo bungled a few channels in their Fios lineup, changing the guide data for 10, 11, 16, 811, and 866 to some Richmond affiliates. But they fixed it within a few hours.

    Today? Recordings of D.C. United game mysteriously did not happen.

    Other than that, nothing. What exactly were you looking for?
     
  8. Jun 23, 2008 #948 of 2214
    Gerhard

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    That was basically it... I wasn't sure if they removed FOX or put it somewhere else. I was primarily annoyed that FOX-HD seemed to go away... and I was thinking that maybe FIOS did something to the channel lineup without any forewarning.
     
  9. Jun 23, 2008 #949 of 2214
    NSPhillips

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    For a while my Series 2 thought there was a Fox channel on 10 and a MyNetwork TV on 11. But then it got fixed. Didn't have the same issue with the Series 3.
     
  10. Jun 23, 2008 #950 of 2214
    Hilltop Sailor

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    I know this is a repeat question, but I cannot find it with the search engine. Can someone post (again) the answer to the problem of TiVo not working correctly on only some FiOS channels? My TiVo works great on everything but the Comedy and Fox News channels. On those two channels, the signal often breaks-up. The non-TiVo, FiOS-supplied HD STB's elsewhere in my house get these two channels fine. Neither FiOS's nor TiVo's phone CSR's will discuss the problem with me because there is no mutual support agreement in place between the two of them.
     
  11. Jun 24, 2008 #951 of 2214
    wrp

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    There are probably thousands of posts here about this problem. Basically, the Tivo HD tuner is very sensitive to a signal that is too strong, and you need to put attenuators in the coax cable going into the Tivo box. It's also difficult to get this right, since if you put too much attenuation your signal will be too weak and you'll also get pixelation.

    And signal level reported by Tivo also changes by the hour - there's either a problem with the Tivo not reporting this signal level correctly, or the Fios Ont boxes are actually putting out different signal levels for different channels at different times of the day.

    This is a mess, and Tivo still has no solution for it.
     
  12. Jun 24, 2008 #952 of 2214
    Hilltop Sailor

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    Thanks for the answer and not flaming me. You are a saint. :)
     
  13. Jun 25, 2008 #953 of 2214
    riffjim4069

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    I was installed on April 2nd and passed on TiVo because of the multistream cablecard issue...cablecard fees alone to support 3 TiVo HD boxes (6 x $3.99) would be more than $28 per month after franchise fees and a slew of taxes. I love FiOS TV and Internet, but their CableCard pricing is excessive and, in my opinion, limits consumer choice. Before I moved, Comcast offered the M-Card at $2 per month: Comcast $6 per month plus fees/taxes vice Verizon $24 per month plus fees/taxes to support 3 TiVo HD boxes.

    I called Verizon this morning and they STILL only offer the S-Card. I am sorry, but Comcast has been offering the M-Card in my former area since Oct/Nov 2007. There is no reason, other than to limit consumer choice, for Verizon to still be pushing the S-Card at $3.99 per. Anyway, I filed a complaint with the FCC and suggest others do the same. Cut and paste if you wish, it's up to you.

    http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

    Limit 1000 characters:

    I am not sure how to categorize my complain with Verizon (V*), but their CableCard (CC) policy regarding FiOS TV indicates they are not fairly supporting a consumers reasonable access to use 3rd party set-top-boxes (i.e. TiVo, etc.)

    V* does not support multistream (M-Card) CC with FiOS TV, while competitors, such as Comcast, have been doing so since Aug 2007. I haven't purchased TiVO because V* does not offer the M-Card (dual-tuner)...only the singlesteam (old S-Card). Verizon's rental fee for the CC was $1.99 last year, but it was raised to $3.99 as of 1 Feb. In order to use a dual-tuner TiVo HD DVR, I would need to rent two S-Card type CCs at $7.98 per unit. Yikes! That's over $28 just in CC fees alone if you include fees and taxes for 3 TiVos. I would much rather rent a single M-Card at $3.99 insteads since it will do the same thing as two S-Cards.

    I believe V*'s CC practice limits consumer choice and violates the spirit of FCC initiatives directing more consumer choice
     
  14. Jun 25, 2008 #954 of 2214
    bcaslis

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    Are you sure Verizon doesn't support M cards? I called yesterday to schedule an installation on Saturday for a Tivo HD with FIOS. After much discussion I was told that their cable cards are M cards, so I only ordered one. If that's not true then it's a real problem for me.
     
  15. Jun 25, 2008 #955 of 2214
    ah30k

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    Many employees see the Motorola M logo and assume M-Card. I don't think they support M-Cards yet.
     
  16. Jun 25, 2008 #956 of 2214
    webin

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    To date, there are no Verizon customers with M-Cards. I wouldn't bank on you randomly being the first.
     
  17. Jun 25, 2008 #957 of 2214
    bcaslis

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    You're probably right. Called them again and can't get a definite answer one way or another. Tech support sounded like they think they are s-cards but they weren't sure. Of course now they can't change the order for one card. $3.99 for a single s-card? Really makes me wonder if it's worth getting a Tivo HD for FIOS.
     
  18. Jun 30, 2008 #958 of 2214
    jb1677

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    After reading over the past year or so all the horror stories of people having cablecard installs attempted I waited, and waited..... and waited. Finally I decided to give it a try, and sure enough it turned into a disaster.

    Somehow after a complete day, 3 technicians, 4 CableCards and a false promise that the tech would come back after grabbing a bite to eat I find myself left with just locals - in HD and non HD - but nothing else. No other channels at all. Both cards still display Auth: NOT_SUBSCRIBED and HOST Validation: Unknown 00.

    I thought after all this time things would be better. A call to FSC gave me nothing but a promise of a callback within 24 hours. If its anything like the last tech's promise to come back after getting some food then I imagine I will never hear from the FSC. The person also suggested that I be at home for the call, I am sure my work will understand (NOT)

    O well, just venting.... but wow, the support and tech staff sure is bottom of the barrel these days. When I have FIOS internet installed way back when the tech was great, a true pro, now no so much.
     
  19. Jul 1, 2008 #959 of 2214
    aaronwt

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    Like other service providers it's a crap shoot on what type of technician you get. Some are knowledgeable and some aren't. But from my experience, the Verizon techs generally seem better trained than the Comcast and DirecTV techs.
     
  20. Jul 1, 2008 #960 of 2214
    hmm52

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    You've heard of the power of positive thinking? I've never had an experience with Verizon like yours. The closest would be the initial Internet only install, in '05 I think, when the tech was cursing his employer 5 ways to Sunday for not providing additional personnel to direct traffic while he was up on a pole - on a very quiet road. The problem in PA is shortage of techs, not training. With cablecard installs, a good tech can compensate for a deficit on the other end of the line. Tell VZ that the only reliable way to reach you is your cell phone #. That's worked for me. What area of the country are you in?

    Host Validation:Unknown 00 is normal with VZ. Auth: Not Subscribed is not.

    Once a card is authorized and intialized (properly), it will take 3 minutes or less for all channels including premiums to come up. 2 cards X 3 techs X all day with no success = 0 productivity.
     

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