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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. May 29, 2008 #921 of 2214
    acvthree

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    You will have to make a call to Verizon to have them enable the Ethernet on the ONT. It is a simple procedure and is done remotely. Just tell them you want to use your own router and please enable the Ethernet (you may have to make a second call to have them release the address). I haven't heard of anyone getting push back.

    Al
     
  2. May 29, 2008 #922 of 2214
    rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    The ethernet is there on the coax. You can (I have) hook up a NIM-100 which will provide your network connection. I used one to replace my wireless NIC on my S3. Run the output to a cheapo switch and have room for the Wii and XBox (plus 4 more devices). MRV runs like a raped ape.

    Only thing is I think the Actiontec is still serving up the IP addresses. I haven't tried the NIM-100 without the Actiontec yet.
     
  3. Jun 11, 2008 #923 of 2214
    rcji

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    I've been reading some of the previous post and just wanted a few things clear. I just got my tivo hd and I currently have verizon fios. 1) Do they have to come to your house and install it for you or can you pick up your own card and do it yourself? When I called up twice 1 person said someone has to come to your house and the other person said you can do it yourself.
    2) Are all the verizon fios cards now multi stream that let you use one card for the dual tuner to work?
    thanks!
     
  4. Jun 11, 2008 #924 of 2214
    webin

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    1) No, an installer MUST come to your house to install cable cards. Many CS Reps get confused by something in their system and will tell you that you can do it yourself, but no one has ever actually been allowed to do that.
    2) Verizon still uses S-Cards, and probably will for a while. The M-Cards have to get "certified" on the Verizon system, and they aren't really moving fast on that. You will need 2 S-Cards in your TivoHD to get dual tuner functionality.
     
  5. Jun 11, 2008 #925 of 2214
    JediTim

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    I had FiOS installed several weeks ago and the installer needed to come to the house and install two S cards...he contacted the office and activated the cards during the install.

    I have two Tivo HD units and four S cards. I am charged $3.99 per card per month.
    Tim
     
  6. Jun 11, 2008 #926 of 2214
    dalesd

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    That "must" is purely from Verizon's point of view.
    Anyone savvy enough to buy and hook up a TiVo HD is savvy enough to read a few numbers off the screen into the telephone to the Verizon home office.
    Other than the act of delivering the card(s), there's no particular reason for tech must come to your house.
     
  7. Jun 11, 2008 #927 of 2214
    webin

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    I agree completely. I am more than competent to install the cards... though the installer had a sweet web app they use to do the activation (come to think of it, how was he connected to the Internet? My wireless router is locked down pretty good). The installer was useful in swapping my ONT with a newer model and verifying the system was functioning correctly.

    I think the "must" boils down to company policy. If an installer is on site to do the work and verify functionality, they are more guaranteed to have a properly configured system that is less likely to cause service calls and tech support later.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2008 #928 of 2214
    pilotbob

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    I'm sure they have Verizon EVDO/HDSPA cell phone broadband cards in their laptops.

    BOb
     
  9. Jun 11, 2008 #929 of 2214
    rcji

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    Thanks! I thought too it was a little ridiculous that they "have" to come and do it just to pop in a card and activate it. I would of done it myself but be my guest if thats what I have to do. I think I'll just stick with one card for now if it's still the single stream. I can live without the dual tuner. Thanks again for the help!
     
  10. Jun 12, 2008 #930 of 2214
    ilh

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    Verizon could easily supply customers with a web site to type in the numbers. When I recently received a DCT700 from them, it came unactivated, and it was a self-activation over the web. Within a few minutes of activating online, it came alive. I can't see why they couldn't do exactly the same thing with CableCARDs.
     
  11. Jun 12, 2008 #931 of 2214
    rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    Correct - Panasonic Toughbooks with cellular connection, actually. BTW, the Verizon tech that installed the cards in my THD got a "successful" activation using his laptop but, in reality, was unsuccessful. After scratching our heads wondering why no premium channels were working he ended up calling the FSC to have them authorize the cards :rolleyes:
     
  12. Jun 12, 2008 #932 of 2214
    webin

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    My installer had a similar experience. More or less successful activating both cards on his laptop, but in testing, determined that he needed to call someone to re-initialize one of the cards.
     
  13. Jun 19, 2008 #933 of 2214
    jcostom

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    FiOS guys just arrived. 2 of them, one in training. The other guy's never done a TiVo. BUT, they're thrilled that I've been reading and know a thing or two about what they need to do to get it done.

    Fingers crossed.

    Fortunately, they're not monkeying with the existing FiOS Internet already in the house. They only need to plug the crappy Actiontec router into the coax loop for the TVs, or so they say, and can leave the Cat 5 connection to my (much better) router alone & working.
     
  14. Jun 19, 2008 #934 of 2214
    jcostom

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    Well, they're still here. Internet stayed up the whole time. Because my ONT is an older non-MoCa compatible one, they did need to install the Actiontec connected to both the coax as well as to Ethernet, though they were ok with plugging the WAN side of their router into a port on mine, so as not to disrupt anything I had already setup.

    CC's are both activated, but currently reporting NOT_SUBSCRIBED. They're outside taking 15 for lunch. We get 2-49 and the HD Locals, but nothing else on either tuner on the THD. Afterward, we call the fiber solutions center.

    The Standard Def STB they installed downstairs in the kids playroom is working fine on all appropriate channels at least, so they're happy.

    These guys were sure glad I was here to help them walk through this stuff, and I in return are grateful for the wisdom of the gang here. Hopefully all will be righted shortly..
     
  15. Jun 19, 2008 #935 of 2214
    webin

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    I wouldn't fret too much about the NOT_Subscribed yet... I'm sure they'll be able to call headquarters, get them to reinit it or something, and you'll be up and running soon. It's interesting that they are leaving both Coax and Cat-5 connected to the router.... you could remove the cat-5 and just get your internet through the coax (as I currently do).
     
  16. Jun 19, 2008 #936 of 2214
    acvthree

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    And be locked into the Verizon actiontec as your router? There are downsides to MoCA only.

    Al
     
  17. Jun 19, 2008 #937 of 2214
    jcostom

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    Right on!

    My regular router is a Juniper SSG 5 (one of the perks of working there), and does all kinds of amazing stuff the Actiontec couldn't even dream of doing...

    Anyhow, long story short, the guys just left. It's all working 100% now.

    They called in, got the cards re-initialized and blammo, working like a champ.
     
  18. Jun 19, 2008 #938 of 2214
    acvthree

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    Nice feature set!

    Is there a gigabit version of that router?
     
  19. Jun 19, 2008 #939 of 2214
    jcostom

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    Not today, but gigabit router/firewalls on the scale of an ssg 5 are mostly a solution looking for a problem.. Really, how many of us have > 100 Mbps for our Internet connection?

    Besides, it's a product that's really targeted at the enterprise market.. But, I digress..

    Holy crap, FiOS tv on the THD is unbelievable. Even the VZ installer guys thought it was better than their dvr..
     
  20. Jun 19, 2008 #940 of 2214
    webin

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    Welcome to the club :)
     

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