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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Sep 25, 2007 #481 of 2214
    hooper

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    I had the Verizon DVR for about 6 months until upgrading to the Tivo HD. Painlees install even with a tech who had never seen a cable card before. I couldn't stand the remote lag or the guide data. I could put up with the Comcast DVR, but the Verizon one is a big steaming pile of crap.

    Luckily I still have a lifetime Series 1 box and was eligible for MSD, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the new unit due to cost.

    I haven't noticed any issues, but I haven't had the box very long and am more of a casual user. I put up with close to 5 years of pixellation problems on Comcast.... so am very tolerant.
     
  2. Sep 25, 2007 #482 of 2214
    kpepling

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    I just read the following article.

    If Verizon switches FiOS to completely IPTV what does that mean for us TiVo users? I know that currently we would be SOL. Would the potential SDV dongle also work for IPTV?
     
  3. Sep 25, 2007 #483 of 2214
    joysbox

    joysbox Happy Happy Joy Joy

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    point blank - Verizon HD FIOS works with the S3.
    I have it with two cable cards, no issues what so ever.
    who knows what will happen in the future, but it is working for me (Northern VA)
    fine.
     
  4. Sep 25, 2007 #484 of 2214
    bdraw

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    FIOS works now, why worry too much about tomorrow?

    Because it's fun, so here we go. Why install the ONT and spend all the money on STBs only to replace it all in 3 years? The IPTV options existed when they started to roll out FIOS, why not go with it in the first place? IPTV is used around the world and with AT&T U-Verse. The technology was available they decided to go in another direction, I doubt that reason will change and be implemented in 3 years.
     
  5. Sep 25, 2007 #485 of 2214
    AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    And remember, this is FTTH, not FTTN. They have tons of extra bandwidth on that fiber, and could easily *add* IPTV to the existing service. That way, they support both the QAM model, and the IPTV model. Just drop another box in the house, or another output from the ONT.

    FIOS has by far the best infrastructure to support just about anything going forward, and more than enough bandwidth to do it (they are actually working on doubling the bandwidth as we speak, and can improve it my 1-2 orders of magnitude with existing technologies).
     
  6. Sep 25, 2007 #486 of 2214
    naybag

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    Although there were no glowing reviews, I have just placed an order for the HD Tivo. Sounds like other than not completely working, it's still far preferable than the Fios DVR. Last night, on the Fios DVR, all of the programming was 30 minutes behind. This meant that Chuck started taping at 8:30pm, Heroes at 9:30, and Journeyman at 10:30!!!! Luckily I had all of Heroes, but only the 2nd half of Chuck and the 1st half of Journeyman. :mad:
     
  7. Sep 26, 2007 #487 of 2214
    DingoAce10

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    HELP!!! Just got my Tivo S3 yesterday...Called VZ Fios to get 2 new cablecards not knowing there might be an issue...Now I have the service manager calling me back to tell me something about the CCs having limitations? If it is just PPV, The Guide (hate that anyways) and OD I am not that worried...I have another CC running in my TV so if I need thoughs I can just switch to that input.

    Please help! I hate the VZ DVR SO MUCH!!! I want tivo! Wanted to get an answer before they call me back.
     
  8. Sep 26, 2007 #488 of 2214
    ah30k

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    Easy to question the decision but lets look at the results. How many orders of magnitude more subscribers do you think Verizon has compared to AT&T. Who made the right call?

    Verizon went with this technology because they could re-use much of the largely mature cable technology and design a low-risk solution that works in the near term.
     
  9. Sep 26, 2007 #489 of 2214
    Ron Tobin

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    That's it. No VOD, no PPV, no widgets or anything else that's interactive. Those are the cable card's limitations.
     
  10. Sep 26, 2007 #490 of 2214
    DingoAce10

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    Thanks! What are the other "interactive" things that I might be missing? and are they fixing this or is that just a limitation and that is it?
     
  11. Sep 26, 2007 #491 of 2214
    acvthree

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    Carrollton,...

    It is just a limitition. For some of the features Tivo has alternatives, like Amazon unbox instead of PPV.


    Al
     
  12. Sep 26, 2007 #492 of 2214
    acvthree

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    Carrollton,...
    Hmmmm, here is an idea.

    When he calls, ask him if his DVR supports Amazon unbox. If he says no, ask him when they are going to fix that limitation.

    Al
     
  13. Sep 26, 2007 #493 of 2214
    DingoAce10

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    Sorry, I already talked to the tech and he said it was a false alarm and that it will work fine, but since the Cards are not made by them, they don't fully support them. But the Tivo site has troubleshooting options to get it working correctly.

    Not sure what Amazon unbox is, but it sounds interesting...I will check it out.
     
  14. Sep 27, 2007 #494 of 2214
    dallastx

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    Bought an HD at Costco on Tuesday. Guided setup went fine giving me channels 1-49. Called Verizon for cable cards, the guy came yesterday (Wed). Like others have said, the cable guy new nothing about TiVo or cable cards.

    The installation went smoothly anyway. TiVo displays four numbers for each cable card. The guy didn't know what fields to enter so he called a guy and gave him the numbers over the phone. It turns out that he only used the "Host" and "Data" numbers. Had to run Guided Setup again to get all the digital channels including HD and premium.

    I found the HD a little slow in displaying the guide. I think it's do to displaying it in HD. The grid form of the guide is very slow.

    So far I love the HD. It beats the Verizon 6416. All that's left is replacing the hard disk with a 500GB Seagate DB35-SCE.
     
  15. Sep 29, 2007 #495 of 2214
    JasonJ75

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    Another Fios refugee here...Got my TiVo at Costco too. :)

    My HOA signed a deal with Verizon so everyone in my neighborhood has Fios and unfortunately we all have the same ridiculously pathetic DVR. You should see the rants on our community intranet, particularly since Vz rolled out the new software.

    The corrupted or missed recordings (their guide missed the first half of the Hero's premier), and general navigation stupidity has people buying TiVos left and right. When the tech (dedicated to our community) came over to my house on Tuesday he said all he does lately is install CCs in "these new TiVos."

    Two of my converts came online this week...I should be getting a cut of TiVo's goodness. :)
     
  16. Sep 29, 2007 #496 of 2214
    JustAllie

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    So my neighbor just got FiOS and despite my gentle proddings, they got the Verizon DVR.

    Should I wait a few weeks and then start sending her links to the TiVo.com web specials? :D
     
  17. Oct 1, 2007 #497 of 2214
    dallastx

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    I replaced the 160GB disk with a 500GB disk last Friday. Now I'm totally happy with 70 hours of HD capacity.

    It will probably jinx me to say that I've had no problems so far. The cable cards work perfectly.
     
  18. Oct 1, 2007 #498 of 2214
    brimonte

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    I am a verizon tech that has been installing fios for 2 years now. Today i had a trouble where a series 3 tivo tuner with dual cable cards that was pixelating and couldn't find the problem. I came to find out that there is an internal problem with the box that is allowing RF leakage and causing the problem. It mostly happens on the lower frequency HD channels, but is also known on cartoon channels and HBO. Supposedly Tivo knows about the problem and is working on it. As I find more information on this I will post it.
     
  19. Oct 1, 2007 #499 of 2214
    Ron Tobin

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    Thanks for your post. Would you happen to know if your customer got the latest software update? It's supposed to address pixelization and sound drop off issues, but there haven't been many postings by users who have gotten the update and reported if it helped or didn't help.
     
  20. Oct 2, 2007 #500 of 2214
    wbradney

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    I received the Fall 9.1 software last night, and it hasn't resolved my pixellation problem, which consumes more and more channels every week, it seems.
     

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