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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Mar 7, 2007 #341 of 2214
    Greeble

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    I now have horrible pixelation on 3 of my HD channels. Everything was working fine up until about a week ago. (Recorded an HD movie off of one of the now problematic channels) The channels are UHD, DHD and WealthHD.

    If I check the cable card status. It keeps losing lock and the signal varies wildly. (Down to the 70s up to 90s, always changing) Where as the other channels seem to be all consistent and are in the high 90s. It sounds like I have a different problem than the typical signal strength too high deal some FIOS folks are getting.

    EDIT: Frequency is 747000khz
     
  2. Mar 7, 2007 #342 of 2214
    hmelman

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    If you tune to a problematic channel and go into Messages & Settings -> Account & System Information ->Diagnostics you'll see 4 blocks of information. The first two are for the channels tuned and the 2nd two are for the cable cards. If you look in the first two, the 3rd item is Channel, find the block for the problematic channel. Then the 4th item in the block is Frequency. What frequency do you see? Is it the same for all the problematic channels? Is it 447000 KHz?
     
  3. Mar 9, 2007 #343 of 2214
    hmelman

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    I have a splitter before the TiVo that wasn't there when I used comcast. I removed it and the pixelation was a little better but not perfect. One tuner did ok (94-100 with lock), the other had more problems (55-100, intermittant lock). I also noticed that the coax cable from the splitter is my original and the others are Verizon's coax, I wonder if they might be better at 447MHz? My guess is that the signal has to be boosted at the ONT and I'll have to Verizon in to do this.
     
  4. Mar 9, 2007 #344 of 2214
    acvthree

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    The signal coming out of the ONT is usually very hot. There have been many people, including me, that Verizon put splitters on just to attenuate the signal.

    It's a good idea to have Verizon come out. The problem could be something as simple as a bad cable connector or a bad splitter. They can check the signals at several locations and figure this out.

    Al
     
  5. Mar 9, 2007 #345 of 2214
    quantrill

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    I just had my installation on 3/6. It was a fairly painless process considering that the tech had never done cablecards NOR a Series 3. One of the cards was DOA, he returned the next evening after I got home from work with a new cablecard and all seemed well. Yesterday I set up a Season Pass for PTI on ESPN (60) and noticed pixelation on the recording. I checked the signal strength and saw that it was fluxuating between 95-97 (all other channels are solid 100) AND displayed something close to the message "(no signal on tuner 1)". This was a surprise to me so I played around a bit forcing it to use tuner one, and I indeed had no signal. I then proceeded to to a signal test on every channel (this took awhile) and found the exact same channel list was affected: TNT (51) TBS (52) ESPN (60) ESPN2 (61) CNN (80) CNNH (81) COURT (163) TOON (227). Some of the stations map to two channels (part of the realignment I assume) and both displayed the same problem.

    I agree that this appears to be an issue with the S3 handling a certain freq as transmitted by Verizon. I live in Burtonsville, MD so this does not appear to be a localized phenomena. Perhaps as more of us call in with the same channel list, a lightbulb will go off above a Verizon engineer's head and we'll get resolution.
     
  6. Mar 10, 2007 #346 of 2214
    PlanoHD

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    I live in Plano, TX and checked my Verizon FIOS local HD channels last night. It looks like they "miracoulsy" started working on my TIVO S3. They are still working this morning so I have hope that the problem has been fixed. Is the problem fixed for anyone else in the area?
     
  7. Mar 11, 2007 #347 of 2214
    Ilene

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    Maybe we should start our own thread so that we can keep up with North Dallas Fios.
    I am Parker and Alma and was seeing extreme pixelation at the same time as you were. I looked at all of the diagnositic screens before calling Fios to reinitialize my cards as neither were communicating with the CP provider. Afterwards, the problem still existed. My TiVo also froze 2x during this timeframe, so I had to reboot twice. I find this happens when the cableCards are "not working".

    A couple of days later, it mysteriously cleared up at the same time it cleared up for you. So far so good. But I have seen this before, where they are working and for some unexplained reason, the pixlation returns. I am no longer recording anything I care about in HD. The digital picture is almost as good - colors are just a wee bit less vivid, but at least it is clear.
    It is too frustrating to miss shows and have to watch them via the broadcast companies web site on my computer.

     
  8. Mar 11, 2007 #348 of 2214
    acvthree

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    Are you only seeing this in Fios locals? Do you see this on any other channels?

    I'm in Carrollton and I haven't seen any of the pixelization you are talking about, but I get my local HD OTA.

    Al
     
  9. Mar 12, 2007 #349 of 2214
    Ilene

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    Yes, I have had consistent pixelation on local HD via Fios - channels 801 - 809. The non-locals used to begin with 810 and above before the channel line up change on 3/6, but I don't remember where they begin now, but non-locals for me have been pretty consistently clear. We watch CNN 519 a lot and there are times when all of the CNNs pixelate as well.
    The pixelation (and corresponding audio drop out) comes unexpectantly after many days of working perfectly. It clears up, usually, several days later. Because I cannot find rhyme, reason or pattern, I no longer record in HD (I cannot tell you how many House, 24, American Idol, NCIS and the Unit I have had to delete).

    Local HD OTA is obviously not Fios, so while I appreciate your comments that you are not seeing pixelation, it is really irrelevant to a discussion that HD locals via Fios pixelates. If you are watching OTA, you are not watching through Fios.
     
  10. Mar 12, 2007 #350 of 2214
    PlanoHD

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    I spoke too soon. The pixelation problem is back on channels 801 - 809 (local HD channels). I too have to stop recording on HD channels.
     
  11. Mar 12, 2007 #351 of 2214
    RealityCheck

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    I think it's time the FCC mandates "Clear QAM" extended basic. For people who don't sub. to premium services, it would solve so many problems (goodbye CableCARDs!).
     
  12. Mar 13, 2007 #352 of 2214
    Ilene

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    Saw your post and checked out my 2 tuners and cableCard screens, everything perfect until about 30 minutes ago when I lost cableCard 2 (missing program_rekey) so that tuner is pixelating. CableCard1 is still enabled with no errors.

     
  13. Mar 14, 2007 #353 of 2214
    hmelman

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    At least since Sunday my service (8 non-HD channels at 447MHz) has cleared up with no pixelation. No one was here to do any work and I did nothing myself, it just cleared up on it's own. I'm getting 100% signal with lock on both cards. I had told FIOS which channels I had problems with and assume they did something about it but I don't that that's the case.
     
  14. Mar 14, 2007 #354 of 2214
    quantrill

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    Same here, there was one re-occurrence late last week but since then (as far as I can tell) I've had no further issues with any of the channels on that frequency.
     
  15. Mar 15, 2007 #355 of 2214
    captain_video

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    I got my FIOS service activated several weeks ago but I sent my S3 Tivo out to get the PROM modded right afterwards so I've actually been without FIOS on my HDTV until yesterday. I had recorded a few shows right after I activated the service but didn't get a chance to watch them until last night. I wasn't prepared for what I saw. I had a couple of recordings of Battlestar Galactica and the Dresden Files that I made from the SciFi channel the day they installed my FIOS setup. With DirecTV, both of these shows always looked grainy and very soft, almost like trying to watch a VHS tape on a big screen. With FIOS, both of these shows looked much sharper and approached DVD quality. It was like seeing them both for the first time.

    I knew that FIOS would provide more detail in my HD programming but I never expected it to improve the standard definition channels to such a degree. I was originally planning on having FIOS on a trial basis to see if I liked it better than DirecTV. I think now I'll be with FIOS for the long haul. DirecTV will have to show me they have a better product than FIOS when they switch over to mpeg4 and add their new HD lineup. The thing is, FIOS will also be adding more HD channels so it looks like it's going to be a neck and neck race between them. Right now my money's on FIOS.
     
  16. Mar 15, 2007 #356 of 2214
    Gregor

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    What sort of PROM modification did you get?
     
  17. Mar 15, 2007 #357 of 2214
    ashu

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    Oooh - more disallowed subtle TiVo hacking talk. This should get interesting :)

    As for the HD improvement, you were comparing uncompressed HD to a really awful source (DirectTV's HD Lite). Ther differece is supposed to be massive :)
     
  18. Mar 16, 2007 #358 of 2214
    musicforme

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    Thought I would chime in here that I've had very few pixellation issues on HD channels over in Grapevine.
     
  19. Mar 16, 2007 #359 of 2214
    captain_video

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    And just what do you consider to be "disallowed talk" with regards to a PROM mod? Modifying your S3 Tivo PROM is only part of the equation towards getting your S3 hacked. It's no different that what R10 and 540xx Tivo owners discuss in other forums here all the time with no repercussions. There's nothing involved that allows you to steal service or circumvent the Tivo fees. It just allows you to install some of the same hacks enjoyed by other Tivo owners that have "Zippered" their Tivos or hacked them in a similar manner from scratch. There is nothing going on that violates any forum rules.
     
  20. Mar 19, 2007 #360 of 2214
    flipit

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    Greeble:

    Have you found a solution? I seems I have the exact same problem on the exact same channels (in Richmond, VA). Like you, this is also a recent development, as I didn't have the problem before.
     

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