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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Ilene

    Ilene Member

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    Because the S3 needs 2 cards if you want to be able to tune to 2 different cable channels (doesn't matter if they are single or the newer multi stream) Verizon charges you for both because they see it as 2 pieces of equipment. I have rented 2 cards for 6 years (without the ability to actually purchase them).
    I have just purchased the Premiere Elite and will be either retiring or using the S3 with one cc and also OTA. Haven't made up my mind yet.
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The original S3, the one with the OLED display, is the TCD648250.

    The next two Series 3 platform models were the HD (the TCD652160), and the identical looking HD XL (the TCD 658000).
     
  3. Johncv

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    Thank you, :rolleyes: I do have to agree that OLED display was one sweet box too bad TiVo could not carry it over to the other boxes due to cost.
     
  4. headless chicken

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    Oh right. Its Series3 to me is synonymous with the beautiful OLED display. I forgot the Tivo HD and HD XL are also technically third generation. IMHO, the original S3 with an upgraded HD is the only way to go.

    I pulled the trigger on a Premiere Elite when it was $311 a couple of weeks ago at electronics-expo.com. I thought it was a clearance sale to get rid of the Elites but it I actually received the rebranded XL4. I returned the unit after a week because the Premiere XL4 looks and feels like a downgrade from the Series3.

    I'm much happier with my upgraded 1TB Series3 with Lifetime. It may not have 4 tuners or be able to record 300 HD hrs (I can always upgrade the drive again), but the interface is much better, there is an LCD clock display that shows you what is recording, the search function is much faster and 30 second skip works.
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The S3 has an LCD display? :)

    Sent from my HTC ReZound using Forum Runner
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Apparently headless chicken is a spring chicken and not old enough to remember that before Liquid Crystal Diode time displays there were similar looking Light Emitting Diode displays, which I suspect the Organic Light Emitting Diode array of the S3 has.
     
  7. headless chicken

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    Typo. You can see I initially refer to the display as OLED.

    I love having the time visible too, which was conspicuously absent on the Premiere Elite. Its the only clock in my living room.
     
  8. Johncv

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    You could hang a clock on your wall. :rolleyes: I have a nice big one that set itself to the atomic clock.
     
  9. headless chicken

    headless chicken Member

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    I've got original artwork on all my walls. I'd rather not have an obtrusive and ugly clock, thank you.
     
  10. dgbretz

    dgbretz New Member

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    I have a Series 3 with OLED display with 2 FIOS cablecards. I got the letter referenced above a while back and came here concerned about whether I would lose channels. The general consensus was that I didn't need to worry about it since I didn't have premium channels, especially if I could 'see' channel 131.

    I checked channel 131 and it worked fine...still does. No worries at the time...

    Today, there is a free HBO/Cinemax weekend so I figured I would Tivo a bunch of movies like I usually do. However, all the HBO/Cinemax movies show me the cablecard screen with a quasi-error message that says:
    The Cablecard considers the host to have only one-way RF capability.

    I tried re-pairing the cards through automated voice system and that does not appear to have worked.

    I have a plain jane free digital adapter on an upstairs TV and I'm getting the free preview up there just fine.

    Any suggestions?
     
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    You could potentially lose 22 channels in a few weeks when FiOS switches them from MPEG2 to MPEG4. Since the Series 3 boxes don't work with MPEG4 channels. Well they can work with a software update, but since the S3 hasn't been made in years it's unlikely that they would put out an update.
     
  12. SoBayJake

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    I tried the automated system and didn't work. I tried the chat system and that worked.
     
  13. dgbretz

    dgbretz New Member

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    Do you know what the chat did that was different?
     
  14. SoBayJake

    SoBayJake New Member

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    No clue. They both asked for the same information. It was late, and I could have mistyped something.
     
  15. dgbretz

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  16. dgbretz

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    Hmmmm...I wish I knew what they did but after an hour on the phone it is working. The person I was actually talking to was working with 'Level 3' support.

    I've seen the list of channels that are being switched to MPEG4 and figured it wasn't a big deal. I know I'm using old equipment.

    I'm disappointed but not surprised by the level of support Tivo has provided for the Series3.
     
  17. wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

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    One tip I've found helps, make a copy of the cablecard's ID numbers and make sure they jibe with the numbers you see on the screen. And make the copy 200% larger so you can actually read the tiny type on there. That and make sure you're not transposing zeros with letter O characters. My suprizon rep made that mistake when setting ours up originally.

    Otherwise you're stuck dealing with the demonstrably incompetent ways some local cable operations handle pairing the cards.
     
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    dgbretz

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    I did have to repeat the Cablecard info over the phone at least 10 times. I had actually given up after being on the phone about 30 minutes. I figured I would just have to repeat the whole guided setup if I ever wanted to see any premium channel content.

    One take away for me from this is that it appears the channel 131 test to see if your cablecards are properly paired does not work in all cases...
     
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    am95

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    For the last several months I only had one cable card that I switched between two boxes. I did this about once a week and at first it was a breeze with the automated phone system but that stopped working so then I had to start calling in which became a nightmare. Your either going to get someone who knows exactly what they are doing or someone who doesn't have a clue in which case it will never get resolved. They'll tell you that a new card is needed or they need to send someone out. If this happens hang up and talk to someone else.

    If you think this is something you might have to do in the near future after you get it resolved, I'd recommend asking the competent tech support person to make notes of what exactly they did and giving you the reference number if case you have to call back and end up with someone that's clueless.
     
  20. Apr 4, 2013 #2200 of 2214
    wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

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    I wouldn't expect the socket used for the cablecard to hold up to regular insert/removal efforts. Those pins in there are pretty fragile. Yeah, it "ought to" be able to withstand a fair number of them, but I doubt anybody actually expects that to happen. And when the socket goes, so does the device. Just how much of a bargain is it to swap the cards around and call in all the time?
     

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