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Series 3 Verizon FIOS HD compat?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mchad, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Wow...that's very good to know. I use a Harmony as well and would have been upset if that happened to me...not to mention that the wife would have had a fit (she didn't think we needed "...another TiVo?!" anyway ;) ). Thanks for the heads-up! :up:
     
  2. mae

    mae member

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    Rich,

    I called back and sat on hold to let them know the resolution and close the case. I figure they have enough real bugs to squash. The CSR was very interested, took down the details and said he would enter it into their database. His theory was that the legacy code recognized the IR signal, while the new code had no idea what to do with it.

    Of course, I'm sure plenty of folks have old peanuts sitting around (I bought a few on WOOT) and will have the same problem if they hit the exit key on that.

    Glad I avoided the wife being annoyed. I found and fixed it before she got home!

    Mark
     
  3. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy! :D
     
  4. blackngold75

    blackngold75 Member

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    Tech showed up this morning with the two cards I'd ordered: one for my TivoHD and one for my Premiere. About 30 minutes later, everything was working perfectly, and the CableCard installs went exactly as described in the instructions.
     
  5. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Sweet. Enjoy! :up:
     
  6. bma

    bma New Member

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    Has anyone ever gotten M-Cards that are detected as S-Cards in the THD (not S3)?

    I have gotten two cards now that act like this. It clearly says on it Motorola M-Card; TiVo's CC hotline said the first time I called that the card was likely faulty because the second number in "FW Version" was '-.-' (null), and the new card has the same setup. The FiOS tech said he's installed these cards in THDs fine before and are detected as M-Cards, so wondering if my THD is faulty... would be nice to only have to pay for one CC instead of two to get both tuners working.
     
  7. Phantom Gremlin

    Phantom Gremlin New Member

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    Yes, sort of.

    On some (not all) of my TiVo HD boxes, when the card was first inserted the TiVo said something like "S-card detected". But about 5 or 10 seconds later the screen switched to "M-card detected". The other boxes detected the M-card immediately after it was inserted.

    So clearly there is an algorithm that the TiVo is following that is perhaps not infallible.
     
  8. DeWitt

    DeWitt New Member

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    On the Tivo HD an M card MUST be in slot one.
     
  9. bma

    bma New Member

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    Yes, it was in slot 1. It also never changed from "S-Card" (waited about 30 seconds). I'm going to try and snag a third card from them to try one more time; but am starting to suspect the TiVo and not the cards...
     
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    hoyty Member

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    I have had FIOS for a few months. I only have a Series 3 and no Verizon STB. Recently my 5 year old 27" Westinghouse bit the dust and I swapped with a 4 year old one from spare bedroom. The orginial only had DVI + RCA and the new one has HDMI. Since the switch we are getting fairly regular sound drops on lots of channels. Anyone else experience this? I am thinking of switching back to analog audio to see if it fixes it since the Westinghouse is stereo only anyway.
     
  11. mayhews

    mayhews New Member

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    I have a Series 3 HD with cable cards and Verizon Fios. They did the install over a year ago with no problems, and everything ran flawlessly until Monday night at 9:05, when there was suddenly no signal. ("Searching for signal on ..."). Tried the usual things, no joy.

    Called tech support this morning and after 45 minutes the tech was able to do something that caused an error message (Error 161-4) on each of the cable cards, but could not get it working. He dispatched a tech who tested the cable, reconnected it and VOILA!, picture and sound. Of course, an hour later it was gone (and so was he).

    Before I put myself through another day of tech support hell, is there anything other than the simultaneous failure of both cable cards that might cause this? Is it possible that one of them wasn't working for a while without my being aware of it?
     
  12. rage777

    rage777 New Member

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    I had a similar problem where my internet and cable went out. Called tech support and they fixed the problem. About 20 minutes later it went out again. Called back and they fixed the internet but had to do a truck roll for the cable. I then found out that my circuit breaker to the Fios backup battery popped. I put it back and then it worked fine. So, you might want to check the backup battery and see if you had a breaker pop.
     
  13. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    Yeah. Try the Dolby Digital to PCM option.
     
  14. 3morgans

    3morgans New Member

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    I have a current FIOS install with two cablecards on a Series 3. Works perfectly.

    I am moving to Philly and was setting up my new install and the CSR was trying to tell me that the cablecards are SD only. I am pretty sure this is not true, but just wanted to verify with anyone out there who has had a successful install in the Philly area. Anyone have any feedback?

    I think I need to tell them to bring me a settop box (they can't remove from the order) and two cablecards and I should be good to go. I'll have the install tech remove the settop box from the order upon install.

    -Eric
     
  15. blackngold75

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    I recently had two CableCards installed (1 for a TivoHD, 1 for a Premiere) in Northern DE (Philly VHO). Two things:
    1. A set top box is not required, and after a brief "education" of the customer service rep they were able to remove that from the order.
    2. The Tivo with CableCard gets ALL of the digital channels in your package, both SD and HD.
     
  16. zyzzx

    zyzzx Go Bucks!

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    The CSR lied to you.
     
  17. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    I don't know if the CSR was intentionally lying, but obviously misinformed. There's no such thing as an "SD Cable Card". You just need two "S" (single stream...which are pretty rare any more) or two "M" (multi-stream) cable cards and you'll be good to go.

    Regarding the set top box, we had to do the same thing. Apparently their system won't generate a work order w/o a STB being included. The installer will understand that you don't need it and take it off of the work order.

    Enjoy your new digs!
     
  18. mae

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    According to this thread on DSL Reports, VZ will be setting the CCI flag nationwide..

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24453129-TIVO-Upcoming-changes-will-affect-MRV-Functionality

    [TIVO] Upcoming changes will affect MRV Functionality

    Verizon is planning on implementing copy-once on CableCARD recording devices and it looks like the TiVo multi-room viewing functionality in particular will be affected.

    It has been already been implemented in OR and WA and is the start of a national deployment.

    See this post in particular for the details:
    »Re: Frontier FIOS TV: not even Frontier yet and already FAIL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24453024-

    And these two threads from the start:

    »Frontier FIOS TV: not even Frontier yet and already FAIL

    »Anyone in Oregon, Washington, or Indiana 6/7/10
     
  19. zyzzx

    zyzzx Go Bucks!

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    Severna...
  20. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    So far this has only been in areas being converted to Frontier.
    I have not heard of anyone outside of future Frontier areas having any issues yet. I know I have not seen anything in my area yet either.

    Only time will tell if it's implemented. If it is, Oh well. I'll continue using my TiVos but just make sure I stick a larger drive in all my remaining boxes.

    I just put a 2TB drive in one of my Premieres a couple of weeks ago. I'll just have to pick up some more from dvr_dude and go back to having duplicate recordings on multiple boxes. So I have access to everything at multiple locations. Which is how I did it before I had FiOS.
     

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