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Series 2 TiVo with a Scientific Atlanta HD box?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by keefer37, Jul 20, 2004.

  1. ehagberg

    ehagberg Member

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    Is there no way to make the SA8000 turn itself back on at a predefined time (like at 1:01am)? Even the SA2000 has that functionality.
     
  2. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    Good point, ehagberg. The SA3100 and SA3000 and can turn themselves on once a day, too.

    Also, the newer firmware on some Scientific Atlanta Explorer boxes lets you set an option that tells the box to turn on when it gets a channel change. Set it if you have that option.
     
  3. dt_dc

    dt_dc Mostly Harmless

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    The Auto-shutoff is on all SciAtl DVRs (8000, 8000HD, 8300, 8300HD, etc) running SARA after a certain software version. Don't know the exact version ... but I seem to remeber it first getting rolled out / mentioned in May / June.

    The Auto-shutoff is for a certain time-frame ... 1:00 AM - 5:00 AM (or something like that ... maybe 6:00 AM). The box will turn off after a certain period of time with no activity.

    So, you could set a "wake-up" timer (the DVRs have this standard SARA feature) for 1:01 AM ... but that won't do any good because after a certain period of inactivity ... the box will turn off.

    The SciAtl DVRs still record even when they're "off" (just like Tivo) ... they just don't output any video (just like Tivo).

    Yes, the "turn on for channel change" would probably fix this ... don't have that feature with my software.
     
  4. sc2nc

    sc2nc New Member

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    Just browsing, and I don't know how old this thread is, but had to answer. I was disappointed to find out that all of the really neat outputs on the SA 8000HD (S-video, "VCR archive," digital audio) except the Component Video and L/R audio are not functional at this time. No "off loading." Get the DVR version of the SA box, and watch it while you can.
     
  5. goony

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    My DirecTV doesn't do this... perhaps someone allowed children or a drunkard to install their DirecTV.
     
  6. angel35

    angel35 New Member

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    In York city Time warner 8000HD box will not do that. IT runs on passport. In the manual it says s video and others are for future use :confused: :confused: :rolleyes:
     
  7. dt_dc

    dt_dc Mostly Harmless

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    As always with the cable boxes ... YMMV with your particular cable company / software / vendor / version.
     
  8. preachermanx

    preachermanx New Member

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    Is there an IR code or way to make either serial or IR work with this box? Using a Pioneer 810 TiVo/2.. I tried all the standard IR combo's and none seemed to work.

    Thanks for the assistnace.

    :)
     
  9. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    People have reported in the compatibility list that it does work but not what IR code they used. Also beware the reports about the auto-shutoff and HD/SD output.
     
  10. JoeyImage

    JoeyImage New Member

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    Ok here goes. I have a Scientific Atlanta 4200HD digital cable box, a surround sound receiver, and a series2 Tivo. Is there a way to get them all to work together correctly? I currently have the Tivo hooked to the receiver's Input 1, and the receiver hooked to the TV's input 1. So as long as both are set on Input 1, or Line 1, I can ge Tivo on-screen, which brings me to another problem. The Tivo doesn't change the channel. The digits on the SA4200HD box change, but on-screen, there's no change. Which essentially means that the Tivo is always on the same channel, so if it records anything, it doesn't seem to realize that the channel isn't actually changing. This essentially makes the Tivo useless. The SA4200HD is hooked to the TV through the Component cables, so that all works fine. But I still have to switch to both Input 1's in order to see the Tivo stuff on-screen, but then I have the problem I mentioned above. Any ideas at all about this? I've tried seemingly every configuration..to no avail. I'm stumped...
     
  11. JoeyImage

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  12. dt_dc

    dt_dc Mostly Harmless

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    Sounds like the Tivo isn't sending the enter key after a channel change and the cable box is expecting it ...

    See:
    http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv1033.htm?

    Step 3 (Satellite Box Enter Key screen) ... set this to yes. See if that works.

    I dunno the 4200HD but ... there also might be a setting on the 4200HD so it makes a channel change without the enter key being sent.

    So ... my guess is ... you need to either 1) tell tell the Tivo to send Enter after channel change or 2) tell the cable box to perform a channel change even if it doesn't receive Enter

    Oh ... or it might be sending the wrong enter key. If the above doesn't work try one of the other Scientific Atlanta codes.
     
  13. JoeyImage

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    No dice. Like I said earlier, the TV and receiver have to be set to Input 1 in order to see my Tivo on-screen. However in order to see cable on-screen I have to have th TV set for Input Component. During the Tivo tests the channel changes fine, but I don't see it. However if I switch over to Component I notice that the channel has in fact changed. This is why I feel that the Tivo is now useless. I'm also not sure I'm really explaining my problem correctly.
     
  14. dt_dc

    dt_dc Mostly Harmless

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    Ahh ... re-read your posts ... no, I think you're explaining yourself just fine ... I just didn't hear you very well.

    How do you have the 4200HD hooked up to the Tivo? Composite? SVideo? RF (coax)? It sounds like the 4200HD isn't sending a video signal to the Tivo for some (or all) channels via the connection your using ... for some (or all) channels, it's only sending video via component ...
     
  15. JoeyImage

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    My setp looks like this: cable coax from wall ---> Tivo ---> 4200HD. The composite cables are used to display HD channels. I have a Tivo, 4200HD and a surround sound receiver. The setup of the whole thing looks like this:

    coax from wall ---> Tivo ---> 4200HD ---> surround sound.

    That's where the coax's end. They're connected to INPUT on the surround sound receiver coming from the 4200HD, but I don't have a coax on the receivers output. Someone else mentioned a setup with a splitter right from the wall where one coax goes through all the machines like I have it, and the other either went to Tivo then directly to the TV, or just to the TV (I forget which exactly it was). Maybe this would help me as well?
     
  16. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    I may not be understanding what you are trying to accomplish, so let me know if I'm off base :)

    It sounds like part of the problem is that you are feeding the TiVo multiple input signals. One from the coax, which I am assuming is the feed from the cable company, and the output from the 4200HD.

    You have to choose which device you would like to use as a tuner, and then disconnect the cable feed to the other device. Keep in mind that you need to down convert the signal from the 4200HD, as the TiVo does not support HD. This can be accomplished using the 4200HD menus, and/or by using the composite outputs on the 4200HD.

    Alternatively, you can use the TiVo and the 4200HD as independent devices, but the hookup would be different than described below.

    Basically. it boils down to this:

    1) Remove the cable feed going into the TiVo.

    2) Run the coax cable feed to the 4200HD.

    3) From the 4200HD, run composite or RF out to the TiVo.

    4) From the TiVo, run composite cables to the receiver.

    5) Connect the receiver to the TV.

    6) Make sure the TiVo is setup to use the inputs that actually have cables hooked up to them.

    7) Use the IR blaster as described in the instructions included with the TiVo.
     
  17. JoeyImage

    JoeyImage New Member

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    Ok, I'm gonna try that setup later on today. Also, one more question, I got a 64-inch HD TV yesterday that has its' own TV Guide grid, and its' own IR blasters..I'm probably not going to hook them up since they're only for the TV guide grid, but, if I did, would they interfere with Tivo's IR's, or are they 2 seperate frequency signals so I could, in essence, have both sets of IR's connected simultaneously and not have a problem?

    Also, using your configuration setup, will I still see HD TV while watching live TV? I understand I won't see HD through the Tivo, but how can I accomplish this? I'd hate to have an HD cable box and TV, then not be able to watch HD programming actually IN hd.
     
  18. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    What cable provider do you have? You have to verify if the second set of outputs is active on the 4200HD. What brand and model receiver do you have?

    You have to add another set of cables, out of the 4200HD, and use a second input on the receiver to view HD. . Then you can run component cables to the TV to view HD. The drawback to this is that whenever you change the channel to view live TV the TiVo will change too. If you are recording something, it will be a mess.

    Separate devices is probably best, but that will limit what you can record on the TiVo. I'm running out the door now, and I won't be able to post back until late tonight or tomorrow.
     
  19. JoeyImage

    JoeyImage New Member

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    Cablevision of New Jersey, the receiver is a GoVideo combo machine. I'm not sure of the model, I'd have to check when I get to my girlfriends' house (it's her stuff I'm trying to set up).
     

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