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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by nickmedfonzo33, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. nickmedfonzo33

    nickmedfonzo33 New Member

    Jan 7, 2010
    K so I have an older tivo, it's a philips ptv300. I have a newer directv box, which is a model d12-100. From reading posts I'm pretty sure I need to buy either an IR or serial cable. The problem is my directv box doesnt have a serial port, it has a usb instead. SO my questions are what to buy and will it work?
  2. nickmedfonzo33

    nickmedfonzo33 New Member

    Jan 7, 2010
    or could i just plug the cable cord from the wall directly into the tivo and just not use the directv?
  3. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    Mill Creek,...
  4. nickmedfonzo33

    nickmedfonzo33 New Member

    Jan 7, 2010
    the tivo doesnt have anything shaped like that to plug into. it only has two holes under "Cntrl Out" labeled "serial" and "IR". They look like headphone jacks or something.
  5. whitepelican

    whitepelican Member

    Feb 14, 2005
    As it says right on that USB TV Translator page "TiVo users will need the TiVo serial cable". If you don't know what that is look at the 9th item down on this page. I believe that cable shipped with most older Tivos.
  6. HiDefGator

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    why not just get an old directivo to use instead?
  7. nickmedfonzo33

    nickmedfonzo33 New Member

    Jan 7, 2010
    thank you for the help.

    What exactly would I need to buy to do it the infrared way?
  8. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    Mill Creek,...
    You need the "IR Repeater Eye". I think you can buy them via the Tivo web site if you've lost the one that came with your Tivo. But in my experience you'll have better luck with the USB/Serial Cable.
  9. QMaster01

    QMaster01 New Member

    Mar 2, 2014
    Connecting a TiVo series 2 DVR (Digital Video Recorder) to a DirecTV model D12-500 STB (Set Top Box) via a serial RS-232 to USB connection

    Note: One can use the IR cable that comes with the TiVo but the channel changing is very slow and TiVo enters 3 digits for a channel up function.

    You will need the following components:

    A TiVo serial RS-232 cable with a 3.5mm plug on one end and a male DB-9 connector on the other end. This cable is provided with your TiVo. (If needed, try eBay or TiVo. com)

    A Female DB-9 to Female DB-9 gender changer

    A DB-9 male to female Null modem adapter

    A USB to serial cable. This cable must have the pl2303 chip which is compatible with linux. (the pl2303X chips do not work according to mythtv. org/wiki/Controlling_DirecTV_Set_Top_Box_(STB)_via_USB_or_Serial#Over view)

    According to mythtv. org
    Known good adapters are:
    1. The Sabrent USB->Serial port adapter newegg. com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156008)
    1. WARNING: I ordered one of these and it no longer works with the DirecTV box. These are now using the pl2303X chips instead of the pl2303 and do not work.
    2. IOGEAR GUC232A, ATEN UC-232A (pl2303), BAFO BF-810, QVS UR-2000M2, Sabrent SBT-USC1M and other PL2303 based adapters are known working.
    1. WARNING: I ordered two of these (Sabrent?) and they no longer work with the DirecTV box. These are now using the pl2303X chips instead of the pl2303 and do not work.
    2. A new IOGear GUC232A unit worked for me on 2010-06-17, so either they still use the older rev (unlikely) or DirecTV upgraded to a newer Linux kernel that fixes the driver bug with the new revision (likely).
    3. [cablestogo. com/product.asp?cat%5fid=1529&sku=26886]
    1. July 06, 2007 Update: It has been reported that EMTC (emtcompany. com/products/adapters/dxubdb9-usb-to-serial-db9-adapter-cable.htm) is no longer shipping linux compatible (PL2303) cables. Previously, they were a good and inexpensive supplier, but the replacement cables are not compatible. DO NOT BUY THESE
    4. GWC UC320 (newegg. com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812107108). This has been reported to work on both the HD20-100 and D11-500 boxes as of November, 2007.
    5. dtvcontrol.com/index.aspx?content=cable, which shows up under linux as "Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port"
    6. Dynex DX-UBDB9 purchased off of ebay (February 2009 and August 2009) work fine on the H20-600, H20-100 and H21-200.
    7. Paterson Technology USB TV Translator. Works flawlessly on an H23 receiver (also works with D11, D12, and H20) and has additional logic to eliminate the channel banner quickly.
    8. Other cables/adapters are unknown (use at your own risk).
    Be careful, a lot of these adapters are no longer pl2303 based although they carry the same Model number. Try cooldvr.com. He carries a complete set of cables (pc or mac to stb) that are tested to work. Cost about the same as buying the parts individually
    Official USB to Serial Cable Support
    According to the Installers Guide V2.2, the following USB to Serial Adapters are fully supported:
    Supported USB-Serial Adapters
    Manufacturer Model USB Vendor ID USB Product ID
    IOGEAR GUC232A 0x067B 0x2303
    ATEN UC-232A 0x067B 0x2303
    BAFO BF-810 0x067B 0x2303
    Therefore, it is possible (though not guaranteed) that your particular USB-Serial adapter will work if it has:
     USB Vendor ID= 0x067B
     USB Product ID= 0x2303

    Connect the cables and adapters together. Plug the 3.5mm plug into the Serial port on the back of the TiVo series 2. Plug the USB cable into the back of the DirecTV model D12 receiver. Unplug the power cord on the receiver and then plug it back in.

    On the TiVo Series 2 unit, use the TiVo remote and…
    Press TiVo to Go to messages and settings
    Channel Changing (if this is not visible, you will have to repeat Guided setup by resetting your TiVo and adding on a DirecTV satellite receiver)
    No, I’ve switched to a different satellite box
    DirecTV brand remote
    Use Serial cable

    Your TiVo remote will now be able to change channels on the satellite receiver.

    Now on the DirecTV receiver, using the DirecTV remote, change the banner display time;
    System Setup
    Change Banner display time to 2 seconds. (Or see DIRECTV Set-Top Box Information for
    the Installer manual, see below.)

    Related sites:

    mythtv. org/wiki/Controlling_DirecTV_Set_Top_Box_(STB)_via_USB_or_Serial#Over view
    sbcatest. com/DTV-MD-0058-DIRECTVSet-topInformationforInstallers-V2.2.pdf
    pdp8. net/directv/directv.shtml_for the Windows "directv.pl" perl script
    gbpvr. com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Utility/DirecTVChannelControl
    cooldvr. com/SerialChannelIR.html
    patersontech. com/support/support.aspx_(couldn’t find the USB TV translator here)

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