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Segmentation fault with MFSLive

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by videobruce, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    Brief synopsis;
    Three 652's, all used. #1 & #3 with stock 160GB drives. #1 was upped to a 500GB. #2 has a 2TB drive. No original.
    #1 & 3 no problem. The first was dome with MFSLive, #3 was done with WinMFS. I was concerned about Windows 'seeing' the drive, then writing to it, so I stayed safe and did it in DOS. I re-read further the documents I found on the subject(s) and decided to try WinMFS. This is with a XP Pro PC drives connected directly to a SATA bus, no USB adapter.

    I encountered this error when trying to swap a 2TB for a 1TB HDD in a "HD model 652":

    I'm using MFS V1.4 The drive being imaged is a 2TB taken out of a model 652 (HD). The destination HDD is a 1TB HDD which was never installed. Ythe 2TB will go in another 652 later.
    I have done this before (successfully) with the same boot CD. From what I have read on this, it seems it's something that happens inside the O/S, not from a boot CD. Does the source or the destination drive have anything to do with this? Is a 2TB drive a problem here?
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    See if you can make a successful truncated backup of that 2TB drive to the PC's hard drive or a USB thumb drive first instead of trying "backup pipe restore" all at one fell swoop.

    We'll go from there.
     
  3. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    I clarified the situation in my 1st post.

    #2 is the problem with the larger 2TB drive. I don't know what program was used to upgrade that drive since it was used and the original owner got back to me. I tried using that ill fated "InstantCake" program to start fresh, but that turned out to be a joke and gave up on that. Judging by their support forum all others feel the same way.

    Using WinMFS I imaged that 2TB drive to a storage partition on my PC. That worked fine. I don't remember exactly what was done next, or the sequence after, but I had to make more than one attempt to transfer that file to another drive. At one point I had a GSOD with a (see attachment). It did manage to 'fix' whatever was wrong on the 2nd boot (after 20 minutes not 3 hours). At one point, I forgot to use WDIDLE when I did a transfer and went back and used that (successfully), but when I returned the drive back to the the DVR, it took a second boot cycle before it was successful.

    Mind you, I transfered two original drives (both 160GB) to larger drives (500GB & 1TB) on two separate machines with no issue. It's just this 2TB that is the problem. As of now, it's up and running, but I was hoping to use that drive in the newer 652 (#2), but I'm hesitant to do so since that is the original drive in that machine and if I transfer a image from the other machine to that, if the file off that drive isn't 100%, I lost my working drive.

    I hope all of that makes sense. I wished I used the WinMFS instead of wasting time with the other two, though it was a learning experience. :eek:
     

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  4. unitron

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    You've lost me.

    How many 1TB drives do you have?

    Are you trying to use any of them in a 652, and if so, which one?

    How many 2TB drives do you have?

    Are you trying to use any of them in a 652, and if so, which one?

    What exactly is the problem you're encountering?
     
  5. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    Sorry.
    One 1TB, one 2TB. Both are 652's.
    The 2TB is what came in one 652, the 1TB is a new drive. The blank 1TB was/is no problem, only the installed 2TB that I want to move is.

    The image from the 2TB when restored to another drive is problematic. Right now it is working with a spare 500GB drive (that I'm only using for testing purposes). I want to use the 2TB in the other newer 652, but question doing so due to unknown issues with the image off the drive when restored to a new drive.

    I just want the newer 652 to have the larger drive and the older 652 to have the smaller drive. If I wipe the 2TB, and the image is bad to a point of it not booting, then I loose a 652 in the process since I have no working backup, either a image file or a physical drive.

    I'm just looking for a reliable backup. I assume it is a capacity issue, though I haven't done any HDD DOS scan tests on that drive.
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You have to be running version 11.0k of the TiVo software for a 2TB drive to work.

    How many working 652s do you want to wind up with?
     
  7. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    At present, yes on the 1st, but I'm not sure if it was that version when it was imaged. I have to assume it was or how could it be upgraded in the 1st place. :confused: I wasn't aware the firmware version any any issue with the drive size.
    Two for your question.
     
  8. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    So you want the 2TB in the newer one (hereafter known as TiVo A), the 1TB in the older one (hereafter known as TiVo B) and TiVo C is going to sit around gathering dust and waiting to be cannibalized for parts if necessary?
     
  9. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    Yes, yes & to be sold, non working HDMI and I don't have use for a third though. I was thinking about using it as a spare or parts since I got this for under $150 w/ lifetime due the the condition. He didn't charge me for the mountains of dust inside either. ;)
     
  10. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Okay, you want the 2TB in A, where is it now?

    You want the 1TB in B, where is it now?

    What's in C, and is C a lifetimed but no HDMI unit you plan to sell?
     
  11. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    In B
    In A
    The original 160 and is lifetime. All three are lifetime, I wouldn't purchase a used one any other way unless I needed or just wanted parts.

    Another poster in another thread stated by running 'clear & delete everything', you can swap drives in another machine (I assume the same model). I never read that before, just the opposite.
    BTW, that 2TB was purchased off of eBay pre-loaded for that TiVo I just found out from the former owner.
     
  12. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    So the previous owner bought the drive on eBay, then shipped the TiVo to the seller for installation?
     

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