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SDV FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bdraw, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    lavajunk, articles on the announcements that you cited have been posted and discussed in this thread either on or before the day that those sites posted them or soon thereafter.

    When you visit a thread, don't assume that news on the topic from weeks back hasn't already been shared and discussed. Before posting stuff like that, you should try to use the thread search function (a link labelled "Search this Thread" near the top of a page of posts). For instance, searching the thread for "the cable show" (with quotes), reveals that there are nine posts which contain that phrase, the earliest being this one from May 18th, linking to an article at Engadget, discussing Motorola's Tuning Adapter display at the show (with a bunch of pictures of it). A search for "+certified +Tuning" (no quotes) gets you six hits, one of which is this from July 18th, which gives a link to a Multichannel News article announcing the certification. If you don't find anything on your first search, don't give up--search for a few different related terms.

    As for whether anyone has seen one "in the wild" yet, watch this space :). If someone participating or monitoring this thread either gets one or sees a report online from someone who got one, they're sure to post about it.
     
  2. mikeyts

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    TiVo will not be providing these adapters and they will not be for sale. They've modified their firmware to work with them but the devices will be distributed by individual cable providers.

    One problem with selling them is that they are cable system hardware and software specific. I think that there are currently three different systems for switched broadcast in use by various providers around the country and there are two main cable network equipment providers who have created Tuning Adapters and neither of these will work on networks based on the other company's equipment.

    As I stated in this post a few back, my cable provider, Time Warner Cable of San Diego, has sent out a letter informing CableCARD users that they'll be losing some channels due to the deployment of SDV (as an apology, they offered 6 months free use of a cable STB or up-to-2 CableCARDs). Others with different cable providers in other cities have posted that they've received similar letters.

    Though I feel your pain, I doubt that anyone will roll these things out to their subscribers much before mid-Fall.
     
  3. MichaelK

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    I suspect anyone that has one of the adapters in their living room currently is under an NDA. So you might not hear from them for a while until the beta testing is done.
     
  4. mklitt

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    What about answering my question about who I can write to be on the Beta testing list?

    I get this discussion delivered to me via e-mail regularly and I have to page through your quibbling and parsing other people's sentences and showing off and yet never managing to give any useful information or respond on point to questions. Can you spell T-R-O-L-L?

    I have had my Tivo OVER ONE YEAR, not several years. It just feels like several years after the SDV problem. And yes I can name more than five channels, but happily I do not have to answer your questions and PLEASE do not answer mine.

    Could someone with real info give me an address or a good number to call. Thank you very much.
     
  5. jrm01

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    Maybe not widespread, but they did announce that they will add Minneapolis and St. Paul this year.
     
  6. Firekite

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    M-K-L-I-T-T
     
  7. MichaelK

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    tivo's website has a place to sign up for their beta program.

    But from a few comments in this thread with info that cable csr's have passed along, I get the impression that the cable company's will be running the beta tests. So I think you want to call your cable provider to check on that- if you can get the number for the local head end engineers that would probably be your best hope I would guess. Might want to try escalating your concerns with the national cable mothership but i dont think any normal frontline CSR at a cable 800# will have a clue or the ability to get your name to the right people.
     
  8. MichaelK

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    that's interesting.

    I thought their current plan to increase bandwidth was to go all digital with their new cheapo converter boxes for the basic analog tier.

    I guess they are trying a variety of things.
     
  9. jrm01

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    The Beta areas will probably be chosen by the cable companies head offices, but I would imagine the beta users would be selected by the local office. So I would begin there. Of course, I wouldn't start with a CSR.
     
  10. jrm01

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    Their big intitiative appears to be the DTA boxes, but they are still testing the SDV soluton also.
     
  11. cableguy763

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    Freaking hilarious!!!:D
     
  12. lavajunk

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    TW Rochester is already using SDV - has been since last fall. But my understanding is Rochester NY may have been a test market for TW SDV. Lets hope for all you folks about to get it that the Tuner Adapter shows up from you Cable provider before SDV hits your area.
     
  13. mikeyts

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    At the bottom of the FAQ in the top post of this thread, bdraw lists some of the systems where SDV is known to be fully deployed. He hasn't updated that list in a few months and I think that there were more than he lists even then (for instance, it doesn't list TWC Oceanic in Hawaii, which was one of the more draconian SDV deployments, taking every HD channel away from CableCARD using subs).

    Switched broadcast supposedly goes online on TWC San Diego today, so I'm going to lose access to 45 channels on my TiVo, 3 or 4 of which I was using. It doesn't seem to have gone online yet, and hopefully it won't before Torchwood airs on HDNet at 4:00 :).
     
  14. mklitt

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    Thank you to everyone for being helpful!

    The "tuning resolver" as it is now called may be ready for beta testing the end of the 3rd quarter. It will not necessarily be beta tested in San Antonio.

    However I am now on the list for when it is field tested here. I have unsubbed from this thread now because while there is substance, there is too much chatter and I now have the contact info I need for TW San Antonio to stay on top of this on my own.

    Thanks again.
     
  15. mikeyts

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    mklitt, it's actually called the "Tuning Adapter"; "Tuning Resolver" was its original name, which appears to have changed sometime around the end of February.
     
  16. bicker

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    Gosh, I feel so used. :D
     
  17. mikeyts

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    Full initial deployment of switched broadcast appears to have started, one day later than stated in the notice (fine by me, since it allowed me to record one last episode of Torchwood on HDNet :)). I've lost access to the HD VIP Pak and all of the Sports Pak except for Tennis (the only one that I regularly watch). Very strange, and I'm not expecting that to last. Nice, for however long it lasts, since Tennis is currently covering early round matches at the Cincinnati AMS tournament.

    Oh well. Bring on the Tuning Adapter!
     
  18. SRanft

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    You are right jrm01. I did mean TECHNICALLY NOT REQUIRED since this isn't an issue with the original equipment they provided with the service. It’s just here in the San Antonio, TX area, they have been adding more and more channels on SDV. As of right now, I am missing out on 30+ channels (roundabout guess), using the TiVo HD box. Before I switched to the HD TiVo, I had a Series 2 for more than 5 years. I loved it too much to just give up on it and start using the horrible equipment TWC supplies. So I will just sit here, continuing to pay for service and wait for a resolution to this problem. Suppose I just needed to complain a little. You know, “the squeaky wheel gets the grease”.

    But thanks to those who responded with some bit of updated information on the matter. I just got tired of trying to keep up with all of it and hoped that someone had a little more determination to stay informed on all this stuff.
     
  19. vstone

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    Comcast appears to be going the all digital route first, then may add SDV when needed later. Opinion: They probably ran the numbers and found this method cheaper and/or irritated less fanchise authorities when you look long term at Tru2way TV sets. They can probably recycle some old SD digital STB's to serve remaining analoh TV sets.
     
  20. mikeyts

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    I got the 9.4 update last night. I notice an added "Tuning Adapter" item on the "Account & System Information" menu. Selecting it displays a dialog with the big heading "No Tuning Adapter" and an explanation of what a Tuning Adapter is. Promising. (No doubt this has been covered in the 9.4 update thread, but I thought it was worth a mention here :)).
     

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