Just some observations and comments. First let me admit that I just looked over the last page, didn't read every little comment and just got the "jist" of what is being said. I smeeked so sue me. Second IMHO Bicker usually delivers a pretty good argument. He's honest and I've seen him admit when he is wrong. Now having said that it may seem to many that he sides with the cable company frequently. It may seem that way but only because he is giving an honest statement. Now having said that I want to know why in all this discussion about cable cards, SDV, people not getting it in their area there was no mention about the dongle. If it was mentioned, I apologize I didn't see it. Will it be out second quarter of this year? I kind of doubt it as it seems anytime cable says anything they usually are off on their predictions, and Bicker before you slice and dice me on this one I will admit that TiVo is frequently off too. But I do believe it will be out some time this year. If you didn't take the time to research your area, SDV, and such then really that's nobody's fault but your own. I know I did when I bought mine. Oh and one last thing. Bicker I liked the "sue them" comment. Hey, why not a CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT.