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SD menus on Mini?

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by JimMatthews, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. JimMatthews

    JimMatthews New Member

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    Are SD menus an option on the TiVo Mini?

    I have a Premiere XL4, a TiVoHD and a Series3, and use SD menus on the Premiere so they all have a consistent UI (and also because the family is used to the SD menus, and they're faster). I'm thinking of replacing the Series3 with a Mini, to save the $15/mo Comcast Outlet Service Charge I'm paying for the Series3's two cablecards.
     
  2. dsnotgood

    dsnotgood New Member

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    I didn't see an option for it an d I looked very hard for one. Maybe if you use a av cable it will show up but I don't have one to test with. I hope they add it in soon.
     
  3. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't hold my breath - my bet is the SD menus will never be on the Mini.
     
  4. lessd

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    I think the next products that TiVo puts out (like the Series 5 or whatever) will not use the SDUI, I think that the TP was a UI transition DVR so TiVo could finish up the HDUI for the next DVR product rollout. Therefore I don't think you will see a SDUI on the Mini.
     
  5. innocentfreak

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    I can't see them dropping the SD menus until SDTVs are a very small minority. Last I heard HDTV penetration was only up around 50-60%.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I don't know aout the Mini but on the Premiere units most of the settings menus are still SD even when you're using the HDUI. Have they finally converted the entire UI to HD on the Mini?
     
  7. jjd_87

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    I'm pretty sure one of the reviewers has said that the SD menus are available.
     
  8. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    WOW 60% penetration for HDTV, I must live in a different place as I don't know anybody that has (or uses) a non HD TV(s).
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I still have an analog 4:3 TV in our guest room. My Sister still has two 4:3 analog TVs in her house. One in her bedroom and one in her daughter's room. And my Mom's main TV is still a 4:3 analog TV, plus a small 13" 4:3 TV in the bedroom. Although her main TV just stopped working the other day so she'll likely be getting an HDTV now for the living room.

    So in our 3 households we have a total of 11 TVs and 5 of them are SD, so that stat seems to hold true for my family.
     
  10. innocentfreak

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    I still have one but I rarely watch TV in my bedroom these days so I haven't been able to convince myself to replace it.

    I think it is mainly because people keep TVs until they break. My mom only upgraded because her TVs died. My father still uses SDTVs.
     
  11. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    OK I do have 3 or 4 non HD TV in my home but I don't use them, they are in guest bedrooms that have not been used in years, but I do have 6 HDTVs in different rooms in my home that are used all the time.
     
  12. rainwater

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    The mini only works with digital only XL4/P4 units. So for them to drop the SD menus would not be a surprise in the next year or two. Nothing says users can't use the HDUI on a SD tv. However, I don't think the latest Premiere hardware is being used on enough SDTVs to justify keeping it around much longer. TiVo has the data so they know exactly how many users are using each connection.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Seems that, based on this thread, a lot of people still use SDTVs for secondary locations in the house. So it would seem that it's actually more likely that a Mini would be connected to an SDTV then a primary Premiere unit would.

    What happens if you use the HDUI on an SDTV? Does it just squish it to fit? Or does it letter box? I've never tried it so I have no idea.
     
  14. HenryFarpolo

    HenryFarpolo New Member

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    There is no SD option.
     
  15. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    We shall see. The device only ships with a HDMI cable afaik.
     
  16. jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

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    True, but it supports component and composite output as well. You just need a 3.5mm adapter cable.
     
  17. lpwcomp

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    Looking at the "TiVo Mini DVR Companion Viewers Guide", there doesn't seem to be any setting for TV aspect ratio.
     
  18. Arcady

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    I connected a Premiere to an old TV using a composite video cable while it was in the HDUI already, and it just letterboxed the interface on the 4x3 TV.

    When I hooked up a new Premiere to the same composite connection, it defaulted to the SDUI on first boot and would not allow me to choose the HDUI with only a composite cable connected.

    I'd like to know what the Mini does when booted up with only a composite connection.
     
  19. Philmatic

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    I don't get the confusion, the HDUI works fine on SD TVs, it's just not optimal. Try connecting a TiVo Premiere that is currently set to use the HDUI with a HDMI and a composite connection simultaneously. It will show the HDUI on an SDTV no problem, just letterboxed.
     
  20. rainwater

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    There doesn't appear to be a SD UI for the Mini so I'm guessing you will get the HDUI.
     

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