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Rolled back to 20.3 thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bunjicat, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    I have no clue what you are saying but you did clearly state, "TiVo never used to admit to anything, now they do."

    I'm sorry but, TiVoStephen, TiVoPony, TiVoJerry, TiVoBill, TiVoOpsMgr, etc would have to disagree with you. For years they have provided direct support here. And they most certainly admitted to issues and helped people solve them. Maybe you should reword what you said but clearly that is not accurate at all.
     
  2. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    LOL. I remember all to well the incident with the Best Buy general manager. It was one of the more entertaining posts in that thread. I went out an bought a Roamio basic (still unactivated) right afterwards. :D
     
  3. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    It's a slightly broad wording. I think it's called "paraphrasing".

    You expect to sound credible by saying 5 TiVo employees, who haven't been on here in years, and may not even work for TiVo anymore "would have to disagree with me"? :confused: :rolleyes:

    I'll stick with what I said, which came from my own self. I said my piece. You said yours. We disagree, period.
     
  4. morac

    morac Cat God

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    Except in this case the facts back rainwater, so he's correct.

    Simply searching for posts from the user names he mentioned shows that their last posts were months (Feb and Jan respectively), not years ago. Both of them are still TiVo employees and both have posted up to and after Margret started posting.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/search.php?searchid=8171883
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/search.php?searchid=8171890

    You can call it exaggeration, but there's a big difference between saying there has been no TiVo employee presence here for years before Margret started posting (which is wrong) and the opposite (which is fact). They may not have been as verbal as they were in the past, but they were still here recently.

    Though I believe Margret is the highest level position employee who has ever posted here regularly, with her being a VP and she has an Emmy to boot.
     
  5. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Besides the first link not even working, the second link goes to an off-topic (non-TiVo-related) thread, in which TiVoJerry seems to be addicted to playing the game, of which the thread is part of (the thread is the game). I knew he would show up there on-and-off when I'd check to see if he'd been active. I'm only surprised he's still playing that game.

    He's also no longer involved with anything to do with anything TiVo-related in the US, and it has been that way for some time now. He does not talk "TiVo", answer TiVo questions, or provide support.

    If that was your best zinger, consider me underwhelmed.

    If you come up with relevant, on-topic, TiVo-related posts showing how wrong I am, have at it, so long as all the following applies:

    1. You can confirm TiVo(whoever) isn't just a name that was kept, rather than close and create a new account.
    2. You can prove they still work for TiVo, for US retail customers.
    3. It's not an off-topic thread.
    4. Proof of actual involvement in an official TiVo capacity: Announcements, answers, support, etc.
    5. More than just a one-off post - active participation.

    Since 2 years is still plural, I think I'm almost safe from being proven wrong to say it's been years between TiVoMargret, and the TiVo(others) who provided support and announcements before her, if that's so very important to you.
     
  6. chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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  7. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    Yet another time when you are just flat-out wrong in your claims. This isn't "para-phrasing" or "exaggeration"; this is wrong. You seem to think that you can make any sort of comment you want, and it's up to other folks to correct your comments for you (and correct them in PM which isn't so private in that you feel you can post other people's PM, if you don't like it!!!)

    Just doing a search for TiVoStephen yields lots of posts in the past 5 years (~100 posts total) in which he has commented on issues and even admitted TiVo fault (and even stated that he was posting in an official capacity). TiVoMargret is doing an excellent job now in keeping in touch with us, but TiVo has maintained a presence here throughout the years.
     
  8. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    Many have clamored for release notes for YEARS, and now we get them. We also get TiVoMargret's awesomeness with helpful participation here and on twitter, a direct avenue to report issues to instead of having to deal with a CSR wasting lots of time having you reboot your TiVo, links to priority updates, etc.

    We haven't had anything close to that here since the days of Richard Bullwinkle a decade ago, so let's try not to go and blow a good thing. :cool:
     
  9. uw69

    uw69 Member

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    +1
     
  10. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    Yet another reason he proudly tops my IL....
     
  11. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    The point is that whether human error or code/bug/node/whatever tech related, the explanation was insufficiently clear to those whose boxes hadn't (yet) rolled back to know with any real degree of certainty whether they were in the clear.

    No mention of "we have fixed this operational issue to ensure that there will be no further roll backs" or "we did a batch correction to all boxes to ensure that there will be no further roll backs."

    I unplugged my Ethernet cable for a couple days and I'm glad I did. Why take the risk? As posted above, some users, once rolled forward, are now fairly farked.
     
  12. actionj

    actionj New Member

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    I agree. It sounded like " a small group of people" got rolled back and I hadn't yet. It sounded like anyone that was going to be rolled back was already rolled back. So I thought I was in the clear when I should have also unplugged my Ethernet cable. But alas, I was rolled back and it screwed up all sorts of things and put all of my deleted shows as undeleted.
     
  13. morac

    morac Cat God

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    Apparently search links expire. Here's a direct link to a post.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9985409#post9985409
     
  14. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    OK, a couple of my references are exaggerations of the magnitude of a couple things.

    I don't see anybody complaining I was exaggerating the positive flip-side points I made with every "before" reference. It reeks of bias, IMO.

    I was pointing out positive improvements with TiVo, and within TiVo. So sue me, or get your torches and pitchforks ready. Don't forget the noose.

    Please, just "Ignore List" me, if even my positive posts saying TiVo has turned things around, and/or improved, bother you so badly. I suggest the same if anything else I say, or do, bothers you so badly.

    It's easy, click on my name, select to view my profile, select to add me to your ignore list.

    One-click shortcut to add me to your ignore list & not see what I post: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=258633
     
  15. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    People on this Forum don't hurt other feelings by placing them on the ignore list :D
     
  16. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Or they use the excuse that their "reader" somehow nullifies the ignore list function.

    Ever notice how often one member keeps pointing out that I'm "on their IL"? That's seem a bit convoluted, amongst other things. :D

    I'll say I'd start using that function if it worked both ways, like say facebook, where one party invokes, and neither can see a trace of the other, even in quotes. If it worked that way here, I'd use it, and be a much happier person.
     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I got rolled back to 20.3.8 again tonight. Did this happen to anyone else for a second time? I sent a tweet to Margret. I also sent another email with my TSN again.
     
  18. andyf

    andyf Active Member

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    Checked my two units, so far so good. Of course my Roamio isn't scheduled to connect until early tomorrow morning. My XL4 called in at 5:10pm this afternoon and it's OK too.

    One good thing about getting rolled back previously was I got to update my channels spreadsheet.
     
  19. DaveDFW

    DaveDFW Member

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    Rolled back a second time? That's crazy.

    Has Tivo allowed an employee previously banished to the Premiere line to begin spreading mayhem to the Roamio?
     
  20. tlrowley

    tlrowley Quilt Geek

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    I just got rolled back to 20.3.8. This wasn't the second time, but I was very surprised. I thought they had stopped it.
     

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