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Rolled back to 20.3 thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bunjicat, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Apr 11, 2014 #1 of 187
    bunjicat

    bunjicat New Member

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    Woke this morning to find out the Roamio rolled its self back to 20.3. But none of the mini's did! So not a single mini in my house works! WTF Tivo? All of them say software up to date. I am getting tired of this crap.
     
  2. Apr 11, 2014 #2 of 187
    DaveDFW

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    My Roamio rolled back (20.3.8) but my Mini did not (20.4.1). Despite the version mismatch my Mini is still operating correctly.
     
  3. Apr 11, 2014 #3 of 187
    bunjicat

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    Hmm. My mini's all say can't find dvr. Also, Several deleted programs came back which also deleted several new programs from my dvr. This is FUBAR.
     
  4. Apr 11, 2014 #4 of 187
    bunjicat

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    Restarted the mini's and they seem to connect ok. The issue has been escalated with Tivo. We will see what happens.
     
  5. Apr 11, 2014 #5 of 187
    bunjicat

    bunjicat New Member

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    All my customized guides are gone. Have to redo all channel lists. Call to tech support got me a giant shoulder shrug from Tivo. :thumbsdown:
     
  6. Apr 11, 2014 #6 of 187
    HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    I think this has to be a first at least that I'm aware of (rollback of version).

    Scott
     
  7. Apr 11, 2014 #7 of 187
    timstack8969

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    The roll back happened last night on my Premiere. Lost all Favorite channels, DVR capacity was FULL (100%) had to delete all my shows as far back as Christmas time and Clock was wrong (had rerun Guide Set up)
     
  8. Apr 11, 2014 #8 of 187
    aaronwt

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    Crap!! I hope mine didn't roll back. My TiVos had been fine with the newer update.
     
  9. Apr 11, 2014 #9 of 187
    bunjicat

    bunjicat New Member

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    This has huge implications for Tivo. What this says is there systems in place are faulty. Was this someone with a fat finger or is this software code in place that is going rogue. This should NEVER happen. You should all be very worried because this could happen to ANYONE.
     
  10. Apr 11, 2014 #10 of 187
    midas

    midas I heard that

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    I just blocked all network access for my Roamio until this gets figured out.

    I'm actually in the process of moving and will be disconnecting all my equipment tomorrow morning and I'll have it disconnected until some time Monday. So I'm not really in the mood for a disaster right now.
     
  11. Apr 11, 2014 #11 of 187
    tomhorsley

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    If only it could have happened to me when we got the 20.3 update :). The pre-20.3 version worked infinitely better while I still had the old cable card firmware. My TiVo was a mostly useless pile of junk for the months between 20.3 being pushed to it and Comcast finally being willing to update the firmware.
     
  12. Apr 11, 2014 #12 of 187
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I've never heard of them rolling back a software version before. I didn't even think it was possible. Even when I've participated in betas they always warn that once you get the software the only way for them to roll back is for you to mail your entire TiVo to them so they can wipe the drive and reinstall the old version.
     
  13. Apr 11, 2014 #13 of 187
    tarheelblue32

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    Apparently they lied.
     
  14. Apr 11, 2014 #14 of 187
    aristoBrat

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    Same here.
     
  15. Apr 11, 2014 #15 of 187
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Probably a new feature available only on Roamios.
     
  16. Apr 11, 2014 #16 of 187
    rainwater

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    No they didn't. In the past they have never been able to roll back software. If they could of done it, they wouldn't have asked some customers to send their hardware in to get the new software. Apparently, they are able to do it with the current software.
     
  17. Apr 11, 2014 #17 of 187
    NorthAlabama

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    timstack8969 posted a rollback yesterday to the premiere 20.4.1 thread.

    not having any issues, and don't want to lose my settings - hope i don't rollback.
     
  18. Apr 11, 2014 #18 of 187
    kbmb

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    Crap.....so now I have to go back AGAIN through all my Season Passes and un-pad now that the back-to-back padding glitch is likely back?

    WTF Tivo?

    -Kevin
     
  19. Apr 11, 2014 #19 of 187
    morac

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    I think rolling back software has always been possible in certain cases, they just never did it out of policy. There must be something very bad in the 20.4.1 release for TiVo to revert it.

    Speaking as a database software developer, as long as the underlying data structures haven't changed in the update, there's no technically reason that rolling back software can't be done.

    In layman's terms, think of a software update as changing an object, where changing code is like painting an object while changing the data structures is like carving/whittling the object. If there's just a code change (taking red object and painting it blue), it's fairly simply to simply to revert the change (paint it red again). If there was a database update (object was square and then carved into a circle), it's a lot harder to revert (take all the carved off junks of the glue them back on the circle to make a square again).

    Since the 20.4.1 update didn't have one of those "this can take up to an hour or more" screens after the update, it can be assumed that there was no database format update so therefore it was just a code change.
     
  20. Apr 11, 2014 #20 of 187
    kbmb

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    Both my Plus and Basic had that screen. It didn't start with that one, but it did show up on both during the update.

    -Kevin
     

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