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Roamio setup with Moca-help needed

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by szvers, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    You'll want 1 adapter at the router to create the moca network. The 4-tuner Premieres DO have moca built-in, so adapters are not needed at their locations. Once the adapter is connected to the router, just select "moca" in the Premiere 4's network settings.
     
  2. Luckyluc

    Luckyluc New Member

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    Thanks BigJim. I have the 2 tuner Premiere.
     
  3. szvers

    szvers New Member

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    Thanks for all the helpful info.

    Can the mini access the programs on the roamio if it is connected to the same home network, without moca, or is moca necessary?
     
  4. tatergator1

    tatergator1 Active Member

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    The Mini only requires a connection to your home network. This connection be either MoCA or Ethernet.
     
  5. szvers

    szvers New Member

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    YES, so if my roamio is upstairs and has an antenna only, then the mini downstairs can watch live tv, record, etc, provided they are both on the same home network?
    Perfect, you saved me some cash. Thanks!
     
  6. tatergator1

    tatergator1 Active Member

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    The only thing to keep in mind is that Tivo "requires" a wired connection for best performance. Based on the previous discussions, you were using Wireless DirecTV bridges to extend the network around your house. It is entirely possible that a good wireless connection can work for a Mini, and some users on the forum have confirmed that you can run a Mini on a Wireless N adapter as long as you have a good quality wireless signal.

    Just wanted to reiterate that. YMMV with a Mini over wireless.
     
  7. szvers

    szvers New Member

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    Definitely, I hear you, and thank you.

    The guy on the TiVo chat is telling me it must be hard wired as well.
     
  8. brianbunge

    brianbunge New Member

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    So if I'm wanting to use the basic Roamio with an antenna and two minis would I need the MoCA 2 pack? I have a cable modem with the router built in but I also have an AirPort Extreme connected to it that can connect directly to the Roamio.
     
  9. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    Is the Airport extreme wirelessly connected to the modem, or wired? It may need to be wired to stream video dependably.

    Assuming it's wired, you'll only need 1 moca adapter to connect to modem/router if the Roamio itself will be connected by ethernet.
     
  10. brianbunge

    brianbunge New Member

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    Yes, it's wired. And technically the modem is a combo unit, but I already had the Extreme when I had Uverse at another location.

    So the big question is, if I am using an indoor antenna (Mohu) that's not connected to a switch, how do I combine the antenna signal as well as the feed coming into the cable modem, to the MoCA and then back out to the coax through the rest of the house? There's a multi-way switch mounted in the wall in a hall closet where the actual main feed comes in and splits to the various rooms in the apartment.


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  11. brianbunge

    brianbunge New Member

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    Wait. Nevermind. I get it now. The antenna connects to the Roamio, which is connected to the router via ethernet. Then the MoCA connects the router to the modem and sends the data signal through the networked coax through the home. Only took me 2 says.


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  12. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    I have and currently use directv deca boxes as pseudo "moca" devices to get the Internet and TiVo mini signals through my household coax, so yes it is possible. As mentioned here before, they run on different frequencies and that is why DirecTV had to make theirs proprietary. Cable moca signals run at different frequencies than DirecTV's deca does, but it's basically a Moca signal, just on a different frequency band.

    Also as mentioned if you try to use deca on cable tv, they would interfere with each other and vice versa if you try to use moca with directv it will interfere.

    The way around this is, run the cable RF or antenna RF directly to your TiVo, then using your directv deca boxes (again, pseudo moca), create a separate deca network (same as moca, just uses different freqs) throughout your home using the existing RG6 coax installed. Place one deca as the bridge near your router which will inject the Ethernet signal and modulate it onto your coax, then use other decas and their ethernet ports to demodulate back to ethernet for wherever you place a mini. You can also place an Ethernet switch between the deca and mini if you need wired Ethernet for other devices in that location.

    Works like a champ here, good luck! Decas are way cheaper than moca adapters on Amazon and eBay too!
     

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