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Roamio S5 TiVo reviews and facts

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Aug 19, 2013.

  1. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    If roamio still has to use a Tuning Adapter for SDV, I'll never be interested, because that means it will be as unreliable as my current TiVo HD on TWC, Southwest Ohio. Too bad TiVo has never addressed the SDV tuning failure issue (which they have known about for years). I can't see spending the better part of $1K just to suffer the same issues.
     
  2. bdraw

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    Correct, not sure is an extra 2TB is worth $200 to many.
     
  3. bdraw

    bdraw Member

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    Not right now, a Mini connected to the Roamio still has the same UI of the Premiere.
     
  4. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Why do you think that would change? Tivo doesn't have any control over how video is delivered over QAM channels, so as long as TWC, Cox etc. uses SDV with TAs you're stuck with that no matter what Tivo you buy.
     
  5. SugarBowl

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    And no component outs. My current OTA premiere is hooked up to 2 TV's this way.
     
  6. shoeboo

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    If I understand correctly, the base level Roamio uses a different chip than the plus/pro. Do we know if the performance is the same?
     
  7. Grakthis

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    Do we have an update on this? If they set a hard date ("October") I'd be preordering a romio right now to upgrade my S3. With it just as 'coming' then I'm waiting for it to be released before I order one.
     
  8. Grakthis

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    This notion that the Xbox will ever be able to "control" a cable box via HDMI-CEC is hilarious.

    I mean, to give you some background, I am a huge MS loyalist and a bit of a fanboi. I have a preorder for an Xbox One and I am stoked about the new Kinect. So this isn't some "I hate MS rant."

    This is just, the reality of HDMI-CEC is that the technology is not standardized, is not widely supported and is implemented only to the point of "power other devices on/off and maybe change an input." That's it.

    You are NEVER going to be able to control your cable box in any satisfactory way with HDMI-CEC. Get that idea out of your head. It will not happen.
     
  9. puffdaddy

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    Does anyone know what version of software the Roamio ships with?
     
  10. NoVa

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    Preliminarily, the 1TB seems to be the sweetspot.
     
  11. elwaylite

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    Hi,

    I came on Tivo's site today to look at grabbing a premier for OTA recording only, and found the new boxes were already out (admitting I haven't kept up much).

    Im looking at dialing back my pay service, and recording locals OTA, so I need the base model Roamio with 75 hours, and have a couple of questions:

    1) Just from catching up in this thread, I can grab the ol reliable 1TB DVR Expander and increase storage from the get go?

    2) Does the Roamio still split recordings between drives (internal and external) so if one goes out you lose them all?

    3) On my older TiVo I used to supplement cable shows (Sons of Anarchy for example) through Amazon VOD. I'd buy the series pass and Amazon would auto download the HD file for the tv show after midnight to the TiVo. Is that still going to be the case where Amazon HD tv shows are a downloaded file and not streaming? This is important to me because of a slow connection.

    Thanks.
     
  12. cncb

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    Is there a list somewhere of the audio and video codecs supported by the new models (or for the old models for that matter)?
     
  13. shoeboo

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    Ben, will the Roamio up convert everything to 1080p, or is it just pass through like in the premiere?
     
  14. bdraw

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    I agree. CEC is pretty basic, but extensible. The extensions are not part of the standard, so just because MS supports them, doesn't mean others will.

    If you want to get an idea of what is possible with CEC, check out this page.
    http://www.cec-o-matic.com/

    That being said, power on and volume would be a huge step forward. Always make sure the TV is on when the TiVo is on and show closed caption data when the TV is muted, are two simple examples of valuable abilities we don't currently have. Add in the RF remote and the smartphone/tablet apps and the possibilities are really cool.

    And the Xbox's OneGuide is basically a replacement for the TiVo's guide. If you like TiVo, do you really think MS can do a better job? Not to mention, MS can easily support TiVo's IP control.
     
  15. dlfl

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    I didn't expect it (SDV tuning failures) would change, but hope springs eternal. I and others here do think TiVo has some control over how their software handles the SDV tuning failures, e.g., by adjusting timeouts and/or adding tuning retries. The details have been discussed in several other threads over the past few years. I don't want to clutter up this thread with them. The jist of it is that one or two manual re-tunes (chan up/down) will tune a channel successfully after an SDV tuning failure (but that doesn't help for recording failures).
     
  16. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I recall hearing the same thing from Nintendo about a year ago.....still waiting. Another half baked device that is released before it is finished. That being said, I'll still probably buy one. :D
     
  17. Grakthis

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    my TiVo is always on. I do not want it to turn my TV on when my TiVo is on.

    It would be minorly nice if when I pushed the TiVo button it automatically changed inputs to the TiVo. But how many TVs support that? My Chromecast is on a TV made in 2010 and it doesn't support input changing over HDMI-CEC.

    The only CEC control I could see being useful between the TiVo and Xbox One would be the Xbox One checking the channel and changing the channel of the TiVo, and that would require a TiVo and MS partnership, and I don't think MS seems interested in that.
     
  18. bdraw

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    If you set the video output to 1080p and 1080p24, it'll convert everything to 1080p. I'd suggest you test this first, though, to make sure the TiVo does a better job of the conversion than your TV. Use a test pattern like pizza slices from the AVS forum.
     
  19. bdraw

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    The review sample is running 20.3.6.G2-USA-6-840
     
  20. Grakthis

    Grakthis New Member

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    The lack of stream support in the 199 box bums me out. I just saw that. I get it... I understand... but I was kinda excited about that possibility.

    It's not a deal breaker for me (I'll just buy the $400 box) but it certainly takes it from "i'll buy one right now if they give me a release date on android" to "I'll probably look in to this around x-mas time or maybe in the spring and see how far the software has come."
     

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