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Roamio S5 TiVo reviews and facts

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bradleys, Aug 19, 2013.

  1. tough joe

    tough joe Member

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    Lifetime service stays with the tivo unit regardless of any discount a prior lifetime service gives you.

    Ex. You have Tivo lifetime on box A. You buy Tivo lifetime for box B. Box A lifetime qualifies you for a Box B lifetime discount.

    You end up with 2 tivos both with lifetime.

    In very rare circumstances, "lifetime service" has been transfered from box A to Box B, thus leaving Box A with no service.

    But purchasing lifetime on a new box even with a discount does not eliminate lifetime on your old box.

    You may sell the old box online with lifetime to make back some $$.

    Anthony

     
  2. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Did you really get burned? Or did the lifetime subs still end up costing you allot less than if you had paid monthly for the time their service was still available?
     
  3. TC25D

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    It was so long ago, I can't remember if I saved money over the monthly fees or not. It probably did since I bought them pretty early in their life cycle.
     
  4. tough joe

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    I swear to god if this new S5 tivo locks up like my XL4 had.... Im writing a really stern letter. (lol)
     
  5. tivogurl

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    Speaking of which, is there any consensus on when one should buy lifetime vs monthly?

    It seems like the more expensive the box the more valuable lifetime is. A $600 Roamio vs a $200 Roamio (or the $350 2tb weaknees version I'm considering). If you're upgrading early the less valuable lifetime seems. I'm not sure what TiVo's historical upgrade cycles have been, but if you're upgrading in 2-3 years it seems like you'd want the cheapest box you can tolerate.
     
  6. tivogurl

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    They do if it's an ordinary buyout but not if it's a bankruptcy sale. In that case they get the assets free of all liabilities and contractual obligations.
     
  7. tivogurl

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    Should box A disappear, does box B still qualify you for MSD discounts on box C?
     
  8. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    I had a chat about this with a TiVo CSR yesterday. They said if you buy the Roamio with the monthly subscription, you have 30 days to buy the lifetime. After 30 days, you are locked into the monthly subscription for 12 months.

    Again, this was a CSR, so take it for what it's worth. :D
     
  9. dswallow

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    Of course I can't find anything about it now, but I would have sworn that there had been some spec mentioned about the base Roamio unit which indicated it had more restricted support for streaming to other devices -- it being limited to streaming to one or two devices, versus the Plus/Pro which had higher or possibly no specific limits in place.
     
  10. Das Achteck

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    Which HDFury model are you using?
     
  11. wco81

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    Does the Tivo iOS app support Airplay?

    So you pack an AppleTV and an iPad on your trip, you can connect the AppleTV to a TV and stream recordings you have back home to the iPad and onto the AppleTV to play on the hotel TV?
     
  12. BigJimOutlaw

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    I don't know it for a fact but I'm starting to believe they use the same CPU, since the Plus/Pro models are using discreet hardware for the transcoding/streaming and moca, rather than using a CPU with those things integrated into it.

    The gigabit difference is likely due to the P4/XL4/Plus/Pro's ethernet bridging (moca supports "up to 175mbps" so they don't want to suffocate the network), thus potentially having more devices to feed network bandwidth to, aside from also being Mini hosts. But video transfers themselves will have a cap based on the CPU's ability, which I guess we will learn about soon.
     
  13. tatergator1

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    Typically, the answer is no. The wording is somewhat vague for having a "qualifying unit" to get MSD, but practical experience over the years states that a "qualifying unit" for MSD must be a unit on which you paid the full price Lifetime (whatever it was back then). If you no longer have that unit on your account, MSD is usually denied.

    I should add that a monthly subscription unit can also qualify, as long as you have been paying the full monthly rate as it was when you purchased it.
     
  14. NYHeel

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    Is airplay enabled on the Tivo app? I didn't think so. Does your jailbrake enable airplay?

    I think airplay is going to become even more important once out of home streaming and downloading is enabled.

    And another thing, I find out of home downloading to be more valuable than out of home streaming. When I'm on the move I usually don't have wifi and even when they enable cellular data streaming there are data plan issues. But I can definitely just download a show when I happen to be in a wifi area and then I can watch it later without wifi or data plan issues. That's already what I do but it's nice to lift the home network restriction so I don't have to think ahead on my downloads.

    For example, I'm sitting in an airport gate waiting for my plane. I could use the airport free wifi to download a show for the flight that I previously forgot to download. Or I'm away on business all week and can use office wifi to download the previous night's new episode and watch in the hotel at night. These are all great uses that a slingbox can't handle. Hotel and airplane wifi is both bad and sometimes expensive. To me downloading is a killer feature that other devices like slingbox don't offer.
     
  15. tatergator1

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    Lifetime transfer promos have been offered in the past, most notably between Series 2 and Series 3, but that "transfer" still required a $199 fee.

    The lifetime transfers that people have been mentioning having trouble with apply to the very early Tivo Series 1 units; Lifetime purchased in 1999/early 2000. At that time, the Lifetime Service contract was vaguely/confusingly worded such that many people were led to believe Tivo meant the purchaser's Lifetime, not the Lifetime of the Tivo box. This was clarified in early/mid 2000's, but as a goodwill gesture, Tivo opted to allow a one-time transfer of these early "Lifetime" contracts without any additional costs.

    The current problem seems to boil down to the Tivo system is not currently setup to allow someone to purchase a Roamio without a contract. The solutions has been offered that the purchaser buy from Amazon/Best Buy/WeaKees, etc, and then call to transfer the old Series 1 Lifetime.
     
  16. Fofer

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    Natively no, but with a jailbreak tweak installed, yes.

    As best as I've tested, it's merely "full screen mirroring" though, which is very good of course, but not as good as strict Airplay of only the playing video. But it works!

    "UnrestrictPremium2" is what I use to free up AirPlay (and full screen mirroring/HDMI out) on apps that otherwise try to restrict it.

    And "xCon" is what I use to mask the fact that I am jailbroken to apps that complain about it. The TiVo app doesn't let you stream video if it can detect you're jailbroken.

    Obviously there is no guarantee this cocktail will continue to work with any update to the TiVo app, the iOS, etc. But that is where it stands, today.
     
  17. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks!

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    Except that you can expect that download to take like 3 hours per show. Airport free wifi is slow as molasses already, and chances are your home upstream isn't that fast either.

    Still, this is a nice feature to be looking forward to. I'm excited about out-of-network streaming. And so are all the mobile carriers who're doing their damndest to coerce us out of (grandfathered) unlimited data plans. ;)
     
  18. Beryl

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    I'm hanging on tightly to mine and will be paying a premium to upgrade my next phone to keep it. I stream TV content a lot when remote via Slingbox and Vulkano so I'm looking forward to adding TiVo stream to the mix.
     
  19. BiloxiGeek

    BiloxiGeek Reality Challenged

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    I could envision getting around the need for WiFi when remote like this: Enable the personal hotspot on my iPhone, connect my iPad to that adhoc network, connect to the TiVo at home and start streaming. iPad thinks it's on WiFi even though it's technically on an LTE network. At least you wouldn't have to suffer through the airport WiFi bottleneck.
     
  20. Fofer

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    I don't think it's been determined that out of network streaming/downloading will "need" WiFi (and not work over 3G/4G/LTE,) and even if so, yes, we all know about workarounds for that.

    The concern is more than once you do in fact use 3G/4G/LTE for this sort of thing it'll rack up serious data charges if you're not on an unlimited plan.

    That being said, once the carriers determine that enough of their customers are on a limited plan, and there aren't as many unlimited plans in effect any more, I suspect the requirements for apps that call for WiFi only will relax, and we'll be able to use 3G/4G/LTE if we want... because, heck, we'll end up paying for it and the carriers want that money. Even still, the carriers can restrict what unlimited data users can do vs. what limited data users can do.

    This is what happened with FaceTime on iOS, for AT&T customers for a long while.
     

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