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Roamio RWD/FFD/30sec Local Channel Issues

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by Kev1419, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    "TO BE ANNOUNCED" is due to Fox's MLB World Series coverage, which takes 1st priority and has nothing to do with TiVo. Game times can only be approximated due to weather and overall length of the game.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp?tcid=mm_mlb_schedule
     
  2. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    That should not be an issue for this week as the world series has been scheduled to start Wednesday (scheduled over a year ago). I'm not seeing any missing guide data for Fox's primetime during the entire week.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2013 #183 of 200
    jhnversion1

    jhnversion1 New Member

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    I seem to be getting partial recordings every Thursday on ABC for Grey's and Scandal. I bought this unit for a better experience, but all I seem to be getting is error after error. I've scoured the forums and they say it will be fixed with the latest update, but I have yet to see a recording of Grey's that has been recorded properly...=(
     
  4. Nov 2, 2013 #184 of 200
    uw69

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    More details please. Partial recording is how long, is the partial recording watchable, does FF, skip work during partial recording? Only on Thursday ABC with Grey's and Scandal back to back recording?

    Trying figure out if this is the issue this thread WAS about (update fixed the issue I had in this tread) or if you are experiencing a back to back recording issue. (discussed in a different thread http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=508756 see here ) Thanks.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2013 #185 of 200
    ahwman

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    Don't give up as I am still experiencing similar issues even after the update. I have been speaking with Margaret at TiVo and she tells me that they have a new fix in the works. Crossing my fingers that we see this soon and it corrects our issues...
     
  6. Nov 2, 2013 #186 of 200
    jhnversion1

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    Both recordings can be watched but vary in length. Sometimes it can be 32 minutes, sometimes it can be shorter. I initially thought it was the back to back recordings bug, but my other shows that were recorded back to back recorded fine.

    Also, I never experienced the audio glitch for back to back recordings that was mentioned in the link posted above.
     
  7. tough joe

    tough joe New Member

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    Came home last night - around 9pm, 4 channels my pro was recording were all in a frozen pixelated state. Had to restart unit via the menu. Worked fine until I fell asleep at 11pm. I put the TiVo in standby mode to kill the front lights. Woke up this morning around 7am, the unit would not respond to the remote to bring it out of standby. Also, pressing the power button on the front panel was not working. Had to unplug the power cord. It rebooted and works fine now.

    This is a very similar problem I experienced that TivoMargret had us contact her about a month ago.

    The recordings vary in length, but the video is unwatchable (pixilation in a frozen state). Live tv would not work, same pixilation.

    I'll keep an eye on it by you know what they say, 1 time its a coincidence, 2 times its a
    conspiracy.

    Hopefully this is a one time gliche
     
  8. TiVoMargret

    TiVoMargret VP Product Dev, TiVo

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  9. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    Margret - I experienced an issue with trick play + live tv today where pressing RWD + 30 skip will jump back to the 15 min marker, but then immediately skip forward to the end of the live stream buffer. Also, if I rewind all the way back to the beginning of the live buffer, will also cause it to jump forward. For what its worth, the channel was SDV, Disney junior HD, with 480i programming. I attempted to press record to capture the video, but the recording doesn't exhibit the behavior. None of my other tuners had this issue, but I recall experiencing this issue once before the last update as well.
     
  10. Dec 5, 2013 #190 of 200
    jwbelcher

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    I found one way to cause this behavior. Around 10:45 last night, I switched to a tuner that had just completed recording (The Soup) that ended at 10:30 pm. The Live buffer showed the past hour, even though it just completed recording the program. As I attempted to rewind back, when I hit the 10:30 pm marker, it skipped forward to the end of the live buffer. It seems that the buffer shown before 10:30 wasn't really available (even though it was green) and caused an error when attempting to rewind beyond that point. Hopefully this makes sense.
     
  11. Dec 8, 2013 #191 of 200
    jwbelcher

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    I saw this today where there the buffer started right after the previous recording (no overlap with the recording). Still when rewinding to the beginning of the buffer, it caused the video to skip forward to the end of the live buffer. Only work around is to stop rewinding right before getting to the beginning of the buffer.
     
  12. JamesBritt

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    I've had this problem on a fairly new Roamio (4-recorder version). Always the same channel, always ovenight. Three times n the last week or so. Partial recordings where the time is listed as being, for example, 4 hours but the green bar only covers the first 40 minutes or so, and once at the end of the green bar I can no longer fast forward.

    Your instructions for what to do when it happens do not work for me. If I am watching the video then pressing any number key just gives the "thump" sound. Same thing if the video is paused. If I have highlighted the video in the My Shows list then pressing numbers does nothing, but pressing CLEAR deletes the show.

    What are the correct steps for a 4-tuner Roamio to capture the correct video info?
     
  13. L David Matheny

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    If you mean the progress bar ends at 40 minutes but the program will continue to play to the end, that indicates that some timing information is missing from the rest of the transport stream that was recorded, possibly the Program Clock Reference. If that's what you're seeing, it's surely a signal problem.
     
  14. JamesBritt

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    The progress bar ends before the full length of the show as indicated by the duration bar (or whatever it's called). It looks much the same as when a show is being recorded but hasn't finished. But this recording *has* finished.

    I've had the same issue come up with a Tivo series 2 when I had analog cable.

    I don't understand how this would be a signal issue since the Tivo devce is the creator of the recorded file on disk, and the entire file can be viewed (if you have the patience to watch it without fast-forwarding). Seems the Roamio should know the size and duration of the file it wrote to disk; it feels more like a file corruption issue.

    In any event I sent a message to Tivo support on this.
     
  15. L David Matheny

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    The TiVo device copies the transport stream (or one of its program streams) from the tuner to the disk, but it doesn't (or shouldn't) change the data. TiVo apparently relies upon some of the timing data that is supposed to be embedded in the data when doing trick play features (FF, Rew, etc). The (OTA) instances of this that I've seen were pretty clearly due to faulty data sent by the station. But if you saw this when a Series 2 TiVo was capturing an analog signal, I don't understand that.
     
  16. JamesBritt

    JamesBritt New Member

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    Every time I've had this happen it was while tennis was being recorded. With the Series 2 it was basic cable ESPN2, and now on the HD Tennis channel.

    It may yet be related to the transmitted signal. All three tennis recordings from last night and early morning had the same glitch. I've noticed something funky about the Tennis Channel though this may be coincidental. Most of the time, when I look at shows scheduled for recording, it does not show the end time. I've never seen this before on any channel.

    I was looking at it today and I started wondering how the Tivo knows to stop recording. Yet it does. Very odd.

    It's frustrating because I typically add extra time to live sports recordings but if events are overlapping on the same channel then I omit that. It so happens the the Tennis Channel's published schedule doesn't always coincide with what they end up showing so as a practical matter I tend to record every live event but these are periodically intermingled with talk and reruns.

    I'm trying an experiment tonight to see if setting a fixed-time custom recording makes a difference. (This will only be informative if the usual scheduled recordings continue to show the green-bar glitch at the same time recording the same signal.)
     
  17. JamesBritt

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    UPDATE: I was wrong in my description of the issue. When the recording hits the end of the green bar it plays for a bit, but after about a minute it stops and asks to save or delete the recording. This is different from when had a similar issue on the Tivo series 2, where I could keep watching (but not fast-forward) past the green bar end.

    Now it seems more like a partial recording.

    Meanwhile, everything recorded just fine last night.

    EDIT: Tivo responded to my support email and suggested this might be a tuning adapter issue (since it's only been happening on a switched digital video channel) and gave instructions on disconnecting/power-cycling stuff to see if that fixes it.
     
  18. djvictor69

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    Folks, I know I'm resurrecting a two year old thread, but I'm experiencing this issue now on Fox HD channels. I live in northern Virginia and have Verizon FIOS if it makes a difference. Any advice?
     
  19. gpsjim

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    I'm also having this problem, and it also seems to only happen on FOX.
    I'm on Verizon FiOS in Montgomery County, MD. Hmmm...
     
  20. djvictor69

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