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Roamio Plus lightning damaged. Fix or not?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by rboutin2, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. DougJohnson

    DougJohnson Member

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    A pure 240VAC circuit, such as an air conditioner compressor, only needs three wires, two hots and a ground. You're right if there are 120VAC components such as lights and timers. -- Doug
     
  2. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    Doesn't anybody remember what this kind of "discussion" does to every thread, where somebody posts an opinion-based comment on residential wiring, which is not the way the code sees it, the standards see it, or others see it?

    People try to clarify, not necessarily being qualified to do so, others see a chance to jump in and quote code, others disagree that the code is correctly being interpreted, <fast forward 200 pages>, the thread becomes a heap of every possible interpretation, misinterpretation, and another 200 pages on what "proper grounding" entails, which there is never a consensus on, since some always insist on perfection (meeting code isn't good enough) and others just write their own code as they go, or the code they know was from 30 years ago...

    Codes vary, based on region, and what revision level the codes are at. There's N.E.C. as a baseline, then regional code that can add requirements, or have exemptions.

    Can we please give the O.P. some time to fill in more blanks, before the next great-debate begins?

    Thanks so much, unitron, for popping in and getting this S**T-BALL rolling. :mad:
     
  3. rboutin2

    rboutin2 New Member

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    I was planning on fully disclosing that the tivo and anything else i might potentially sell was involved in a lightning strike. I am a very honest person, and would never try to sell someone something without them knowing and understanding the risk they are taking. As for what i am going to do, I am still debating between selling it as is, on ebay, or salvaging the hard drive from it and using it in my desktop mostly as a backup drive. I also ordered a replacement power supply board for my tv that got fried. it was $10 on ebay, figured what the hell, might as well try it for $10. I will post back the results on that when I get it installed. should be in the next few days.
     
  4. tenthplanet

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    See if the hard drive is still working, if it isn't then recycle the Tivo and take it out of circulation, If a computer is hit with enough electricity, power supplies are the least of your problems. Lightning is an evil beast it's been known to punch holes in walls, you can ground things properly but with a big enough strike it may not matter.
     
  5. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    Some people just want to see if they can do something, or fix something. I'm one of those people who thrive on doing what everybody tells me can't be done, or won't work. So, I think I get the OP's mindset here. The only red flag was the talk of selling anything. If full-disclosure is made, and the buyer buys it with that knowledge, there's no wrongdoing going-on. Personally, I'd feel better if the only intent was to try to fix it, for the sake of the challenge. There's no stopping the next owner from selling the repaired items without any disclosure, and that's not the most pleasant thought.

    I agree about the destructive and damaging power of lightning, and how unpredictable the paths it takes can be.

    I was hoping to hear more from the OP, but only got assurances on full-disclosure if they sold anything I offered assistance in trying to repair.

    Without knowing where the transient energy entered from (and/or exited from), I can't even take this forward. If I had the damaged goods in from of me, I could probably tell what happened, up to a point. There's just too many variables unaccounted for... It would seem time has passed, insurance has paid-out, and things that could hold vital clues about the particulars have already been lost, like all the toasted coax cable splitters at the point of entry for the cable provider.
     
  6. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    Did you get my PM?
     
  7. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    Fyi - In this situation, a new power supply seems to have fixed this TiVo. After several weeks of testing it appears fine. The old PS was definitely blown but sacrificed it's self and protected the other componants.

    For reference, such as this, it was an exception since so many unknowns occur when lighting strikes.
     
  8. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    It's good to hear something back on this. I was so protective about the thread not going off the rails, only to see it go dark.

    I'm not entirely surprised, about the outcome, and the PS taking one for the team. It would seem it worked as designed to. Replacing, rather than repairing, the PS was the right move here (since repairing the TiVo was going to be attempted, for purpose of resale, no matter what anybody said).

    Regardless of how well the repaired TiVo works, whatever life-expectancy it had (before strike), will have been reduced. How much is not something that can be known, only remain to be seen. I'm sure there's other TiVos that never got hit, or will never get hit, but will fail before this one does.

    It looks like some back-room PM action went on. That only gives me the impression the owner didn't want the thread bringing attention to them. It makes it seem that like resale, without full-disclosure, is the end-game.

    That's me thinking out-loud. I'm fairly sure I'm not alone on thinking that. Perhaps some more disclosure, other than there's a lightning damaged, and repaired, Roamio now for sale, likely on ebay, that may, or may not, have full-disclosure in the description, might help (like a link to the listing)...
     

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