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Roamio owner initial feedback

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by HenryFarpolo, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 21, 2013 #41 of 661

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
  2. Aug 21, 2013 #42 of 661

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    My limited understanding of Tru2Way is that it can be a 100% software based solution with existing cable cards and IP connectivity through an existing ethernet/cable modem. So TiVo should be able to add that later to the existing boxes, if they wanted to. Of course, you would probably have to subscribe to the cable company's Internet service, but most people do that already. And if not, use the stupid TA.

    But I thought the whole thing was yet another miserable failure due to lack of interest by the cable companies and lack of standardization and not being forced by the FCC.
  3. Aug 21, 2013 #43 of 661

    Jeff_DML Member

    Mar 2, 2009
    The push for Tru2way is dead and they are now pushing RDK

  4. Aug 21, 2013 #44 of 661

    innocentfreak Active Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    It can take some time for them to see each other. Also sometimes running different versions will block it.
  5. Aug 21, 2013 #45 of 661

    monkeydust New Member

    Dec 12, 2004
    Yeah, I was hoping that it will work tomorrow. In the meantime, with very few channels coming in until brighthouse fixes my CC pairing, been using the netflix app. MUCH better than the Premiere version!
  6. Aug 21, 2013 #46 of 661

    cmeinck Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Count me among those wondering the speed of channel changing using the Mini with Roamio. I'm considering replacing a bunch of Premieres for Pro w/ minis.
  7. Aug 21, 2013 #47 of 661

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    Finally a snappy UI. It just feels so much better navigating through menus now. I no longer have to watch each character form individually, one by one, when moving between screens.

    Now the stupid online Season Pass manager won't let me copy any season passes. Maybe something has to update for it to figure out what's what, but kind of annoying all it can manage to tell me is it's "unable to transfer the following...".
  8. Aug 21, 2013 #48 of 661

    Jed1 Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2013
    Frackville, PA.
    For VOD, Copy Protection, and those stuck with SDV the answer is yes. The rest can come from other parties. The only thing the cable industry cared about was VOD access as it concerned CableCards but the one way host can not provide this. This is why there has been so much resistance to CableCards as it blocks a revenue stream.
    I've been working with the engineers of my system since January trying to get the Copy Protection Management System working with CableCards. Works fine with the cable company boxes though as they are on a separate set up.

    I do know for a fact that the cable industry would love to have to issue only CableCards and let the customer bear all the burden for the equipment. The losses on the HD DVRs are staggering as most boxes only last two to three years in circulation. Also not to mention all the cost of having different legacy boxes in circulation.
    Another problem is most customers are not going to pay anything over a $100 for a device to view cable TV. I think that this one thing will finally sink CableCards as the TiVo's are the only ones left using them. Unless TiVo's become fully compatible with cable TV systems I do not foresee this separable security mandate going on much longer. Remember just like satellite, cable TV is a privately owned closed loop system that has nothing to do with public air waves and doesn't get public money to operate.
  9. Aug 21, 2013 #49 of 661

    bradleys It'll be fine....

    Oct 31, 2007
    Just qickly download KMTTG and that will take care of it for you!
  10. Aug 21, 2013 #50 of 661

    innocentfreak Active Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    People seem to forget this every launch, but it can take up to 7 days for some things to work. Sometimes forcing an extra call home is enough. Other times you might have to flip the options on sharing permissions on tivo.com and then force a call. After the call completes wait a little, and recheck the permissions then force another call.
  11. Aug 21, 2013 #51 of 661

    jcthorne Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    One thing I found out right off was that the Ethernet port on the base model is NOT Gbit. 10/100 only. Pretty bummed since Tivo advertised it as Gbit.
  12. Aug 21, 2013 #52 of 661

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    The Pro model is definitely connecting to my switch at 1Gbps/Full Duplex. I checked the config info of that port of the switch via its online management interface.
  13. Aug 21, 2013 #53 of 661

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    Right like they don't run their wires all over public property :rolleyes:
  14. Aug 21, 2013 #54 of 661
    Troy J B

    Troy J B Lucky 200 Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Sacramento, CA
    I was getting that initially trying to copy from my s3. I think between taking the s3 out of standby, and the Roamio being done loading data, the copy of the season passes finally worked. Albeit out of order. I started re-ordering them, then dawned on me, with 6 tuners priority does not matter :)
  15. Aug 21, 2013 #55 of 661

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

    Feb 28, 2001
    Sorry, I don't believe your argument for a minute. The cable companies have always been about control of their information and the presentation of their information. Sure, they'd like someone else being responsible for maintaining the equipment, but they want to dictate every single interaction the user has with that equipment. Those are contradictory goals, and the contradiction has always been resolved in favor of them being in control. Contrary to what you state, they wouldn't for an instant be happy with just supplying a cable card to customer equipment; they have to be in charge of what the customer sees.

    According to your arguments, the cable companies should be the biggest supporters of TiVo out there. But everybody here knows differently.
  16. Aug 21, 2013 #56 of 661

    HenryFarpolo Member

    Dec 1, 2008
    Andover Ma
    Try forcing a network connection on the non-Roamio. Got the same message and this worked for me.
  17. Aug 21, 2013 #57 of 661

    Beryl Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2009
    True. Renting equipment is a huge revenue stream for them. I paid for Comcast's DVR a couple of times before I bought a TiVo.
  18. Aug 21, 2013 #58 of 661

    monkeydust New Member

    Dec 12, 2004
    Yeah, it is working now. Thanks.

    Once again, very happy with the speed. It is like just opening a folder when accessing my Elite and shows play immediately.
  19. Aug 21, 2013 #59 of 661

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    OK, here's a question I haven't seen covered yet... If someone is willing to pull the plug on their Roamio..

    How fast does it reboot *and start recording again*?

    I admit, if my recording is missing a significant portion of the show, I likely will delete it and watch it On Demand or something..

    But e.g. the OLED S3 & TivoHD take more than 5 minutes (I think closer to 10, but my memory is fading) to *fully* boot and be able to record again.

    The Premiere 4 is a LOT faster, a couple of minutes, but still IMHO AGONIZINGLY long.

    I realize some of that is to reacquire channels on the cablecard, so the times to getting back to now playing & the time before it starts recording again would be GREATLY appreciated.

    Yes, tivos should never crash/shouldn't reboot/you should have everything on a UPS.. blah blah blah.. I'm still interested in these figures... and would possibly _very slightly_ push me to getting one sooner (esp replacing P4 + TivoHD + Tivo Stream with one Roamio).
  20. Aug 21, 2013 #60 of 661

    scherif New Member

    Dec 3, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    I thought I read somewhere that the base Roamio was only 10/100 ethernet, but I then checked the TiVo website and under the specs it did state the base model was 10/100/1000. I am glad someone has confirmed that it's unfortunately not an gigabit port.

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