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Roamio owner initial feedback

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by HenryFarpolo, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. JimPa

    JimPa S3 owner/user

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    I should have a bit more specific.

    For OTA, are you guys seeing any difference between the S3 and the Roamio basic?

    Although it's all digital, you have the sensitivity and selectivity of the incoming signal as well as how the signal is massaged into RGB or component.

    I'm pretty sure that I'm going to at least try the Roamio. The 4 OTA tuners is something I've wanted for a long time.

    Sure wish they'd offer it on the step up models.
     
  2. celtic pride

    celtic pride Member

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    Can someone let me know how rhapsody works on roamio? on both of my tivo premiere thx 2 tuner XLs i keep getting a v301 error can someone search blackfield or pendragon on rhaposdy and see if you get the music or if if you get the v301 error code like the premiere. I cant believe i have had this problem over 3 years now and tivo never fixed the problem. It makes me think tivo doesnt care and makes me wary of getting the roamio if they wont fix the problems. BTW has anyone tried spotify on roamio? I might decide to just cancel rhaposdy and add spotify if i get the roamio thanks for any input or suggestions you guys can give me!
     
  3. ncbill

    ncbill Member

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    In my case the Roamio Basic tunes in more out-of-market (transmitters around 60 miles away) OTA stations than my TivoHD.

    Both do equally well picking up the locals (transmitters 15-35 miles away).

    And I love, love, love having FOUR OTA tuners - already thinking about picking up *another* Roamio Basic.
     
  4. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    See my opinion here:
     
  5. swerver

    swerver Member

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    Rhapsody works on my roamio plus. I have had that error in the past on my premiere, but only once in a great while. It seemed like only certain searches would cause it, but then if I searched in a different way (by album instead of artist for instance) I could get around it. But 99% of the time I didn't have a problem. Have yet to see the error on the roamio but haven't used it enough to say for sure. I'll try those searches later and let you know. It'll be too bad if this forces you to switch to spotify - it bugs me that they get all the press for doing the exact same thing rhapsody does, and not any better, but because they got the word out on facebook, that's all anyone knows about. I love rhapsody!
     
  6. markp99

    markp99 TakoKichi TCF Club

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    Rhapsody works for me too, but just looks SOOOO crappy in SD/HME. :(

    The app is in serious need of a facelift.

    Spotify, on the other hand, looks simply amazing!
     
  7. JimPa

    JimPa S3 owner/user

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  8. cmaquilino16

    cmaquilino16 New Member

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    Can you transfer your lifetime sub from my Tivo HD to the new Roamio or do you have to get a new sub? Also can I take out the cable card from my TiVo had use it in the new TiVo .
     
  9. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

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    No, you need a new sub.
    Yes.
     
  10. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    That is not picture or sound quality, that is signal quality or reception quality. If you have a good signal, it will look and sound the same. If you are using digital, it will always look/sound the same, that is the whole point of digital (with the exception of up/downscaling). HDMI, DVI, and optical TOSLINK are all digital.

    Very few people use analog connections, but that is a valid concern if you use those, still. Thank goodness the TiVo still has analog. In any case, I doubt there would be much difference there, either.
     
  11. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Nope. Never.
     
  12. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    I'll let them know as soon as I have time.
     
  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    That's not true at all. Digital picture quality can indeed be different between devices. It all depends on the quality of the processing hardware they use. Why do you think there are different levels of quality on DVD/Bluray players? If there wasn't a difference, everyone would buy the $59 store brand units instead of the regular and flagship brands like Sony and Oppo, etc.

    Also, digital component outputs, aka HDMI, DVI, etc can send either RGBHV or variations of YCbCr digital component signals out their connectors. It is NOT limited to analog only.
     
  14. PHeadland

    PHeadland New Member

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    That is only true if the device is doing some processing beyond simply decoding (for example, if it is deinterlacing or scaling). Any correctly implemented* Blu Ray player whose output is set to 1080p/24 will produce an identical picture when playing a 1080p/24 Blu Ray disc. Likewise for 1080i/60 discs output as 1080i/60. The same goes for sound quality via HDMI.

    I bought my OPPO BDP-83 for its ability to scale and transcode DVDs and 1080i/50 Blu Rays, for its build quality, and because I like the company and value its support policies.

    When it comes to blatant differences - such as pixelation or macroblocking - between two TiVos both processing the same digital signal, it must be a bug, a hardware defect, or a signal quality issue. OTOH, stuttering due to dropped frames could be a performance issue (I think my Roamio is better in that respect than my old HD).

    * - I seriously doubt you can find a Blu Ray player that does not correctly implement core functionality these days.
     
  15. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Not true in my real world experience.....just sayin'.
     
  16. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    The digital picture is the digital picture. Unless scaling/smoothing/etc is involved it shouldn't matter what device is being used to spit the digital signal to the TV. The codecs for HDTV are well known and pretty much the same everywhere.

    And there is essentially no difference in picture quality on DVD/Bluray players, except for upscaling on DVD (Bluray has no need for upscaling or smoothing). The difference you are paying for is quality of the hardware (longevity, reliability), and features.

    The HDMI on the TiVO is digital only. And that is what we are talking about.
     
  17. swerver

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    Unfortunately, yeah those searches give me the error. But for instance I searched for blackfield in album search since they have albums by the same name, and a couple came up there, and I could play them. Same with pendragon. I searched a bunch of other artist names and didn't get the error.

    It's also worth noting how fast it will jump back to the app by pressing left - if you get dumped by the error you can be right back in less than 2 seconds.

    Agreed tho, that's pretty lame esp. given how long it's been that way.
     
  18. JimPa

    JimPa S3 owner/user

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    Very well put.
     
  19. bodosom

    bodosom Just another tivotee

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    I suppose -- for nonsense. I'd like to think it was just a typo but I don't think so.

    By the way, Oppo (I have two) picks from the same pool of decoders/HDMI parts everyone else does.
     
  20. Rose4uKY

    Rose4uKY Member

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    We returned our premiere for the Roamio and we have two minis. Our minis aren't working gives us some network error message. I'm out of town but haven't used the mini yet cause my Series 3 is also hooked up to the TV in my other bedroom and I've been still catching up on shows on it. But the minis worked when we had the premiere.
     

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