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Roamio owner initial feedback

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by HenryFarpolo, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. brianric

    brianric Active Member

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    Less than 100 watts on a 900 watt unit is not overloading the UPS.
     
  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    It is not designed to withstand power interruption any more than any other computer is. It might be fine for quite some time, but it might also trash the filesystem eventually. And it is not good for the circuitry. And it certainly is annoying to lose recordings or chunks of recordings with every slight power blip.

    A $50 UPS is all it takes.

    In my case, I have a nicer $300 UPS, and it covers everything of importance, since everything is nearby.
     
  3. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Now Playing/Now Showing/My Shows

    Dang, can't they just pick one and stick with it?
     
  4. dswallow

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

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    They missed out not choosing a name they could trademark like "Season Pass". :)
     
  5. Kolenka

    Kolenka New Member

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    The bar at the top is partly where the idea for "What to Watch Now" came from. It goes beyond that, though, and is aligned with the feature on the iOS app that showed up recently.
     
  6. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    I think it could also be one of the causes of premature power supply failures with the sags and surges that sometimes come with the switching over to generator?
     
  7. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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  8. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    A computer is much different as the drive could be writing when the power goes off and the data file may get trashed, no so with a TiVo, I turn my TiVo off at 4am each day and back on at 5pm (by a timer) never had any problem, I don't record anything in the off period. Been doing this for years so I would assume I would have found some problem in all this time if turning a TiVo off could cause a problem.
    Some people like a belt and suspenders, no problem doing things that way, if it makes you feel better, that in itself is a good reason to do what your doing.
     
  9. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    True. I mean at least with the Premiere there was a light for each recording.
     
  10. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    What about any Welcome videos for the Roamio? On my Premieres there was a 2 minute video already on the hard drive with people sitting on a couch with a black background talking to users about why they love their TiVo. There was also several TiVo Tour videos that would automatically download back in 2010. Sadly that hasn't occurred on my Premieres I purchased this year. Also there is this really cool video I was able to download on my Premieres and I found it on YouTube too!
     
  11. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    (Moved to coincide with OP moving post to its own thread)
     
  12. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Sorry, but that is just not correct. There is just as much chance, probably MORE that the TiVo will be writing to disk when the power fails. (Doesn't mean it *will* damage the file system, however).

    Linux filesystems are well built, but not infallible. Cutting equipment on and off like that with hard drives is a sure way to promote premature drive and component failure through thermal cycling. And it drastically increases the probability of filesystem damage (both physically and logically)

    In my case it has nothing to do with feelings. I am basing my assertions as an IT professional with 27 years experience in computers and electronics, not on rumors and wives tales.
     
  13. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    Sorry, that's still anecdotal evidence in my book (and I've been in the field for 35 years). Google's drive failure paper (link to paper), which did not address this particular problem, destroyed all my belief in such assertions (everybody knows that temperature is correlated with drive failures!)
     
  14. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    A TiVo is pretty much guaranteed to be writing when the power goes off (continuous Live TV buffering if nothing else).
     
  15. lessd

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    The difference is that the buffer in a TiVo has no value after you cut the power from the TiVo, on a computer if you just spent an hour on a Word paper and the power goes off you may have a loss of some/ or all of your work. I have Word back up every 10 minutes but still..
     
  16. ncbill

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    That's what my Basic did before it stopped working.

    Tried re-starting (& pulling the power) and it wouldn't do anything besides cycle between the welcome screen & no video.

     
  17. Big Boy Laroux

    Big Boy Laroux New Member

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    I don't have a whole lot of space in the cabinet where my tivo Resides. Any UPS suggestions with a smaller form factor that would still do the job?
     
  18. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    Maybe this? at 3.46 inches by 6.30 inches by 11.34 inches. I know it's not exactly what your looking for size wise but the battery is really what takes up most of the space at 4.15 inches by 5.95 inches by 2.55 inches. Here is the product family http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=29
     
  19. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    The paper clearly indicates that power cycling *DOES* increase drive failure rate (although it is small in their particular study). And I wasn't just talking about drive failures, but ALL components in the machines.
     
  20. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Active Member

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    I had a combination of a bad battery and a touchy UPS reboot my equipment. (Old APC Back-UPS 500).

    Basically the battery was so shot it has no runtime, so if the UPS ever tried to cut over to battery it was an instant power loss. Which only make the UPS worthless, not counter-productive, except it would attempt to go to battery for voltage dips or blips mild or short enough that the computers power supply would have been able to handle them. Except the UPS pulled all power for over a second, instead of the milliseconds that cause the lights to flicker.

    Oops. :eek: (My fault for not checking the battery earlier and doing something about it)
     

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