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Roamio owner initial feedback

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by HenryFarpolo, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Big Boy Laroux

    Big Boy Laroux New Member

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    Sue you? Lifetime is the way to go. I learned my lesson on past Tivos.
     
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Have they offered $99 on any of the Premieres? I have a Premiere on $6.95 a month that I use for OTA. I would love to be able switch that to lifetime for $99 when I get lifetime service on my Roamio Pro.
     
  3. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    The Roamio Basic is going back. :(

    It has wonderful features but I do think I got a lemon. Fortunately, I already ordered the Plus and had planned to return the Basic anyway.

    Last night, we had a 2 hour power outage. The Roamio did not come back like the rest of my equipment (except the PC server and TV which only needed to be powered on). Powering it on with the remote didn't work and plugging it in and out of the surge protector didn't work. Unplugging the power plug from the device and plugging it back in did. That wasn't convenient since it is located behind a cabinet and of course one of the rubber feet fell off. :D

    Keeping my fingers crossed hoping that the Plus is not problematic. I'm holding on to my HDXL until the end of the year in any case.
     
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Might be a good time to get a UPS too.
     
  5. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Probably. I do have an automatic natural gas backup generator but it covers areas that don't include the Roamio. It does cover the Premiere though. The Premiere did really well during the cutovers. I didn't have to do a thing and the Premiere was working in a couple of minutes.
     
  6. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    Wait so your saying that when the power goes out, the Premiere does as well, then the generator comes on and the Premiere reboots? If so that's not a good thing since that could screw up the hard drive if it's in the middle of recording something and corruption. A UPS is always recommended with computers to prevent data loss, and a TiVo is literally a computer, and a UPS will provide steady power, even during the transition between utility power and generator power.
     
  7. brianric

    brianric Active Member

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    Unless the battery in the UPS is borderline, then the UPS can destroy the Tivo. I had a APC 1500 KVA, after a few years of service, start to continually reboot itself. I had the Tivo, modem, router, and 32 in lcd HD TV hooked up to the UPS. TV was off at the time. I powered down the UPS, pulled all loads off on it, powered up the UPS and it stopped rebooting. I'm attributing this to the battery going south. I just replaced the uPS with a CyperPower 1500 KVA unit. I'll put the TV on a separate surge suppressor. I now have two Tivos, with the router, AT&T micro cell and modem on the UPS.
     
  8. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    Well yes batteries over the years do age out, which happens with everything given enough time, that's why newer APC models have visual and audible indicators regarding the battery health.:up:
     
  9. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    You still need a UPS. I have a standby generator also, but it takes 10-15 seconds before it kicks in and the power is flowing again. In those 10 seconds, all my TiVos lose power, and they all have to reboot (and of course, if recording, they lose 5+ minutes of the recording).

    Get a UPS!
     
  10. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Okay! :D

    I knew I needed one. I don't care about losing recordings but it made zero sense to spend $6K on a generator that gets used maybe 3 times a year for less than 5 hours and not have UPS on key electronics.
     

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  11. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    A TiVo is a computer. It should be on a UPS. Mine always are.

    Generator is useless. It does not prevent power failure, dips, sags, etc. If you have an automatic generator, you don't need a very BIG UPS, though :)
     
  12. elwaylite

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    I keep anything with a HDD on a UPS.
     
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I have hundreds of UPS's (home and work) of all difference sizes. I have *NEVER* seen a UPS cause the connected equipment to power on and off over and over. I am not saying it is not possible, but that is a very unusual and freaky occurrence.

    Usually when the battery dies, it just holds up the equipment less and less time until it just stops holding things up. And most of them will shut off and just stay off in such a condition. My higher end units will perform a battery load test every week and if it doesn't pass, it will alarm with a warning, giving time to replace the battery before it completely fails.
     
  14. TheWizz

    TheWizz New Member

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    I have a whole home generator that runs on natural gas, so if the power goes out, I'm back in business in less than a minute. However, I still have all my computers on UPS as well, which includes any/all DVRs. It's worth a hundred bucks for the extra/continuous protection.
     
  15. brianric

    brianric Active Member

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    Scared the living daylights out of me when I realized what was happening, and trust me, it is possible. I would have thought that with a weak battery the load would still be powered by the UPS until AC power is lost, and then it shuts down and stays off. Load couldn't been more than 100 watts, so I was totally surprised.
     
  16. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The battery going bad should not make the UPS reboot. That would be something wrong with the circuitry. I've run a bunch of UPSs with bad batteries and the only time there was an issue was when the power went out. The UPs would only supply power for a short time and then shut off. The only time I've had a UPS reboot is from the internal components going bad.
    I replaced around twenty batteries in my UPSs last year since they were all many years old. And were not giving me the runtime they used too.
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There are actually two kinds of UPSes. Active and passive. Most of them are the passive kind that detect when the power goes out and switches to the battery in a few nanoseconds. Those kind are not effected by a bad battery unless the power is cut. Active UPSes however always feed power from the battery and then constantly recharge from the A/C, similar to a laptop. These can start putting out bad power if the battery starts to die, which can in turn effect the connected devices.
     
  18. lessd

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    I have a home cable amp so for that to work for me I would need a UPS in the cellar, I have the standby auto natural gas general set to a 16 sec start time, and I don't use any UPS supplies except on my main computer, never been a problem, at least for me as the TiVo is designed to withstand a power interruption and I would guess that most of the TiVos in the USA are not on any UPS supplies except for people on this forum. Someday I may regret not having 15 UPS units on all my electronics.
     
  19. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    Yup. Regarding the cycling, the only thing that comes to mind would be if it was overloaded, but if that was the case there's usually an alarm and it won't power on at all.
     
  20. brianric

    brianric Active Member

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    No matter, I tossed the UPS after recycling the battery.
     

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