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Roamio owner initial feedback

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by HenryFarpolo, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    I see this every time I use Netflix, but ONLY when using TiVo. My Apple TV, and the TV's Netflix app don't have this problem. It is so annoying.

    My thought is that the TiVo is slow in flagging the /24 FPS, and that is why it blanks out. Do you know if there is another thread addressing this issue? I don't want to hijack this thread with my problem.

    My speed test:
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  2. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    Maybe it has something to do with SuperHD? https://help.netflix.com/article/en/node/512 I know Comcast and Verizon FiOS don't currently support it although our equipment does. The only threads I'm aware of regarding this issue is on the DSLreport forums. Regarding why we don't see the stuttering on other devices is because for example my PS3 outputs 1080p natively when it's simply running, so when I'm launching Netflix or Youtube or Hulu Plus or whatever, it's still outputting 1080p, even if the video content isn't, it simply upscales whatever resolution that video content is to 1080p. I'm assuming the same is being done on the Apple TV. I'm not sure regarding the TV Netflix app since how that works varies per model and brand. The only time my PS3 outputs something lower then 1080p is when I'm playing a videogame.
     
  3. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    I like the response to that review:
    1 star is ridiculous.
     
  4. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Why would someone not read the specs, then rate it low for specs that are clearly listed all over the site? Every complaint he has except the composite connector is listed on the site. I would report it as an invalid review, because that is what it is.

    It would be like buying a $20 blue, air-filled, latex balloon, then complaining that it was blue instead of red, too expensive, didn't float because it was not filled with helium, and pops when hit with a needle. Duh.
     
  5. elwaylite

    elwaylite Member

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    I replied to the guy and reported the review.
     
  6. series5orpremier

    series5orpremier Active Member

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    That guy only has 3 1-star reviews and 1 2-star review in the last three years and hardly anyone finds them helpful. If the product doesn't meet your needs then don't buy it, you don't have to give it a trashy review. That's like me going onto Amazon and giving all the feminine products 1-star reviews because I'm a guy and can't use them.
     
  7. apw2607

    apw2607 New Member

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    The blanking is caused by the tv switching from 1080p to 1080p/24. Same thing as when you first play a bluray with 24p content.

    Netflix at 24p only happens on the higher quality 1080p streams ... Think 5800kbps and 4300kbps.

    It should only ever happen once though. If it happens often then for whatever reason the netflix client is unable to hold the hq streams.

    You don't see it on Apple TV because Apple TV doesn't output 1080p/24. No idea about your tvs netflix client but I expect its not 1080p/24 either
     
  8. elwaylite

    elwaylite Member

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    Still impressed by the PQ from Amazon 1080p/24 tv show downloads.
     
  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The 3850kbps streams are also 1080P24. As well as the two SuperHD streams you mentioned.
     
  10. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Unless I'm wrong, pytivo and kmttg are "opposites" of each other. Pytivo is a way to get shows on your computer BACK to the Tivo... kmttg is a way to get shows on your Tivo to your computer (as well as a bunch of other functionality nowadays).
     
  11. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Got mine hooked up several hours ago. Took an hour or so for all the setup and cable card and crap.

    WOW. *THIS* is what the Premiere should have been. It is *RESPONSIVE*.... *FINALLY*. The UI still has some annoyances, like unnecessary animation and no sound effects(with a real AMP) and the newest one is the stupid-ass "what to watch now" they stupidly put in "My shows". But the font is so much sharper and easier to read, and things just seem to happen immediately when selecting or moving.

    Granted, I have only actually been using it a few hours, but so far, I am VERY happy I switched. Have never used the multi-TiVo stuff before, and that is slick too.

    If they would just give us more control over WHAT is in "My Shows", including custom folders... and ANDROID STREAMING, I will be silly happy.
     
  12. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    pyTivo goes both ways. But yeah, to the TiVo is its main function.
     
  13. Kolenka

    Kolenka New Member

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    It looks like if the content is truly 24fps, then it will play at 1080p24, even if it has to upscale. At least for my TV where I only have 1080p and 1080p24 enabled on the TiVo. I had the stream reporting SD, but the TV was reporting 1080p24.
     
  14. Kobe_No_Means_No

    Kobe_No_Means_No New Member

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    I highly recommend getting a Slingbox. I have my Roamio hooked up to my Slingbox 500 and it's awesome. Streaming works on any platform and the quality is great.
     
  15. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    I had a slingbox HD and could barely tolerate it. Terrible control lag and highly unstable audio/video.
     
  16. Rose4uKY

    Rose4uKY Member

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    My Roamio will be here tomorrow and we have to return the Premiere I have an email from Tivo with all the return info. But I just realized we have a bunch of shows on our Premiere that I don't want to lose. Like all the concerts he records on AXS TV. How can we save those do we have to hook up both Tivos and just let shows transfer while were at work? There's a lot but I would like to transfer as many as we can.
     
  17. consumedsoul

    consumedsoul Member

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    Couldn't agree more... tried a while ago and returned after few days.
     
  18. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Not my experience. I've had every model since the first one through the HD and they've all been excellent. The HD is the best of the lot. I'm loving the WD Live TV player. Admittedly, when Slingboxes don't work (usually a network thing), it is irritating. I hope some vendor (TiVo?) steps up to challenge Slingmedia in the placeshifting space. Belkin (Monsoon Tech) has not come close.
     
  19. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Really? I have a TiVo PXL into a Slingbox Pro-HD slinging from Philly to Hawaii using a WDTV sling app and its very good quality and stability. One thing that baffles me though is that I get about 2.4 MBps stream using the WDTV app, but when I use the old Slingplayer program on my PC I get about 3.4 Mbps and the image is noticeably better as well. I wonder why the wdtv is throttled back?

    I'm thinking it was something in the network conditions causing your issues.
     
  20. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    Do you mean switching from 1080i to 1080p? When running through my video processor, or the display on my second TV, I can verify that the TiVo Netflix output runs at 1080i and then switches to 1080p.

    Yes. That makes sense. I'm still thinking that TiVo is slow in recognizing the /24 flag because the first time the screen blanks is always after the show has started.

    Based on what you have said above: When the screen blanks more than once, or at other times throughout the show, it's because the TV is losing the /24 signal because the Netflix client can't hold the signal, my internet connection is slowing down, or the TiVo is having problems passing the signal. Correct? I'm inclined to look to the TiVo first as other people have seen this problem, and my guess is that the TiVo is the only thing we have in common.

    I can't tell if my both of TV's Netflix clients support /24p because the menu that shows what resolution is being displayed is not available when the Netflix client is running.
     

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