Hi, All. I'm new to the forum here but have been using TiVos for more than 3 1/2 years. For those of you who have used both the Premiere and the new Roamio, I would appreciate your opinion regarding whether I should upgrade one of my TiVo HDs to either a Premiere 4, Premiere XL4, or Roamio Plus. I can purchase a new Premiere 4 with a Stream for only $150, or I can purchase a refurbished Premiere XL4 with a Stream for only $250. Of course, the Roamio Plus is $400 so I'm looking at a pretty significant price difference. Here is some more information about my current set-up and needs (I apologize in advance for the length of the following narrative): I currently have three TiVos. Two are TiVo HDs that have been active since January 2010, if not longer (my account at TiVo shows January 2010 activation dates, but I am pretty sure I have had them longer than that). I also have a 320GB Premiere (two tuners) that was activated in August 2011. Each of the three TiVos has a Western Digital external hard drive connected to it. I can't remember the capacities of the external drives, but I think two of them are 1TB drives, and one is a 500GB drive (I'm nearly certain that none of them is larger than 1TB). Each of the three TiVos has a multicast cable card and a tuner adapter; none is connected via OTA. I have a lifetime subscription for each TiVo, and each TiVo is connected to my home internet via ethernet cabling. Currently, the Premiere is in our family room, one HD unit is in the masterbedroom, and the second HD unit is in our home office. The HD unit in the home office rarely is used. If anything, we will record things on the home office HD unit and then transfer the recording to one of the other TiVOs (if they programs can be transferred--see below). I have had somewhat of a love-hate situation with the two HDs units. At least one of them (and possibly both) has been replaced under warranty. The HD unit in the home office has been making a very loud noise on and off for the past few months. Based on what I've read elsewhere in this forum, I suspect it is a fan issue. My Premiere, on the other hand, has run like a charm over the past two years, and I am very pleased with it (though lately it appears to take a few seconds to load some of the screens). We record a lot of shows from channels that do not allow transfers between TiVos (e.g., HBO, Showtime, TBS, History, etc.). This has been my major source of frustration with all of the TiVos. I believe (but would appreciate confirmation) that the new streamining ability of the Premiere and Roamio units will allow streamining of all content, including content from pay stations (e.g., Showtime, HBO, etc.) and stations that generally don't allow transfers from one TiVo to another (e.g., TBS, History, etc.). With this belief in mind, I had planned on upgrading to a Premiere until the Roamio was released last month. Now, I'm not sure what to do. Currently, I can purchase a new Premiere 4 with a TiVo Stream for only $150, which is only $20 more than the cost of a Stream itself. My only concern is that I know the 500GB internal drive won't be large enough for us, and I still have a bunch of shows on all the other external drives. I also could purchase a refurbished Premiere XL 4 with a TiVo Stream for only $250. That offer is particularly attractive because the 2TB drive of the XL unit would fit our needs well. The refurb unit comes with a 90 day labor, 1 year parts warranty, and I would likely pay for the three year extend warranty as I did with all my other TiVos. Of course, my third choice is to spend the $400 and buy the Roamio Plus and later, if needed, either replace the internal drive or add an external drive. What do you all think? Is the Roamio Plus worth $150 more than a Premiere XL 4 that comes with a Stream? Is there any reason I should consider purchasing the $150 Premiere 4/Stream combo instead of either the XL or the Roamio Plus? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.