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Roamio is so over-priced (pushing ads is too much)

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by rgat, Feb 10, 2014.

  1. vurbano

    vurbano New Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    honestly hadnt noticed them. I watch TV on the tivo 99% of the time and no ads are on my screen. I spend 1 % of the time scheduling recordings and changing channels.
  2. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    Jul 14, 2002
    As of others have said, I barely notice the ads. It's better than commercials.
  3. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    Drop a frog in a pot of boiling water, he attempts to hop out to survive.......Put a frog in a pot of cold water and slowly bring it to a boil and he never attempts to hop out and thus, dies. :rolleyes:
  4. lessd

    lessd Active Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    And this has what to do with the OP misplaced (my option) concern about TiVo pushing ADs
  5. ncfoster

    ncfoster Member

    Jan 22, 2011
    It seems that he is just saying that if you roll out ads in the interface in a slow enough fashion, eventually there become too many, but most people won't notice/care.

    I would love to see them do something like let people pay an extra amount to disable ads, but I am guessing that their concerns include:

    a) once they start changing the interface from a universal experience to something with any variation, it will make support more costly; and

    b) if there is a way to disable the ads by paying, someone will likely find a way to hack it and hide the ads without paying.
  6. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    Exactly, amongst other things us modern sheeple are getting "accustomed" to.
  7. ej42137

    ej42137 Active Member

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    You obviously have experience with neither frogs nor boiling water. When dropped into boiling water frogs will usually quickly die in the water; if they do escape they die in a few minutes from their burns. On the other hand, slowly heated frogs become frantic as the water becomes uncomfortable; if they are able to escape at that point they survive, if not they eventually become lethargic and then expire.

    Amphibian behavior is a poor model for TiVo problem resolution.
  8. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
  9. ilkevinli

    ilkevinli Member

    Jan 6, 2001
    You created an account to post that ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

  10. talkdj

    talkdj New Member

    May 26, 2000
    I made a living thanks to advertising so I might not be the right person to comment on this topic. But, I do wish that Tivo/Major Networks would bring back the "Thumb" insert on shows being promoted. I notice it every once in a while (The Black List) but always liked the ability to use that feature.
  11. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

    May 1, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    I like this feature as well. Back when it was introduced, I set many a program to record that way. It's too bad the networks don't want to pay participate any longer.
  12. tivohaydon

    tivohaydon New Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    What I don't get is why people keep defending the ads.

    Things like (yeah, they're emphasized and not actual quotes):
    "Don't complain about anything less serious than cancer!"
    "TiVo's ads suck less than Hulu's ads!"
    "Ads are making the TiVo service NEARLY FREE!"
    "They're really easy to avoid. Just watch TV with a scarf over your eyes!"

    I've never seen anyone point out a benefit to having the ads in TiVo and they sure piss a lot of people off by doing it. TiVo doesn't make any real money on them so... why piss people off?

    I'm running Windows Media Center until it dies. However my father (who I recently set up TiVo for) called me and asked me, "What's going on with the ads?" And I just had to remind him that I told him beforehand and just said, "TiVo sucks that way, sorry."
  13. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

    Mar 23, 2006
    I agree, the ads are getting out of hand on the TiVo. As I said before, the orginal reason for the Tivo was to escape the ads back when hard drives were less than 100mb and storage of TV shows weren't a big thing.

    I tried Hulu+ but cancelled it due to commercials, why pay a premium price to get commercials? I would go back to a paid Hulu account if they removed the commercials, I use Kmttg to pull shows off the Tivo, strip the commercials and put them back on the TiVo!

    I hate commercials esp when the commercial breaks get longer and the tv shows get shorter, it's rather sad when you take the commercials out of a hour long TV show and have a 40 minute (if not less!) show as a result. I love sci-fi but can't stand the sci-fi channel due to the five minute commercial breaks.

    If commercials really worked we would all be using Tide, be driving the newest model car, be completely in shape and be eating out at restaurants 3 times a day not to mention every lady would be totally physically satisfied by her husband just to mention a few.

    Might also mention my local cable company does something when they edit in local commercials, it totally screws up TiVo's fast forward and when you resume a fast forward, it drops you into the show were you have to back it up to get to the part were it resumed from the commercial break, that makes me mad as hell because their dvr box isn't effected by such, only TiVo's !
  14. ncfoster

    ncfoster Member

    Jan 22, 2011
    I like a clean ad-free interface as much as the next guy, but I think comparing Tivo ads to Hulu Plus ads is a huge stretch.
  15. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    Funny I watched at least 5 hours of recorded TV yesterday and I can not remember any TiVo ads other than I know there were some in the info bar in the HD Menu (still don't remember noticing them as I don't pay any attention to the info bar stuff) and also were likely some when I paused a show, so I wouldn't say I am defending TiVo ads more like defending that they should/could be irrelevant to a persons viewing experience.

    Unless you lock yourself in a sealed padded cell ads/marketing are/is everywhere and are necessary for our economic system to function (capitalism). The concept that anything/everything you buy/pay for should be ad/marketing free is laughable.

    You can get all worked up over it and have a stroke or you can figure out how to avoid the worst of it (hint buy a TiVo/DVR) and live with the rest by basically learning to ignore the ones that are of no value to you. So while I have no interest in defending any particular type of ad/marketing I will defend ads/marketing in general as necessary.
  16. MScottC

    MScottC New Member

    Sep 11, 2004
    The benefit of the ads is quite simple, it subsidizes the cost of the the device and the service to keep the device working. Quite frankly, I've never once felt slowed down, or felt like I've had time taken away from me without my consent by a TiVo ad. Compare it to the time I've saved by using the TiVo to skip commercials, and all the other benefits that TiVo provides to me, I am coming out way ahead. There are far worse ads all over the place in modern society. Half the time I click on a link to a video on the web, and ad pops up and I can't get by them for at least a few seconds and in many cases I have to sit through the entire ad. Much of our clothing has some large corporate logo on it. Almost all of our mass transit is plastered with ads. Our city streets, roads and highways are littered with billboards. When I buy a new computer, it's loaded with advertising based software. I can go on and on. Society has deemed it acceptable that corporations can assist us in our desire to get things for less money by subsidizing costs in exchange for allowing them an advertisement to reach our eyeballs. Quite frankly, TiVo does it in a way that is not so awful.
  17. sangs

    sangs Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    New Jersey
    I'm with you, unless I pause a show and one of those ads pops up in the progress bar, I don't really notice any other ads.
  18. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
    Same here...not even CLOSE to a big deal for me...
  19. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

    Feb 28, 2001
    IMO, the major benefit of the ads is indirect: it convinces cable company managers that there are additional revenue benefits going forward if they switch over to using TiVo as their company's DVR.

    TiVo's long-term survival depends on being adopted by cable companies.
  20. lessd

    lessd Active Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    If TiVo was making money like Apple then a point about ADs may have some validity, but if the ADs now on the TiVo gives TiVo more staying power and they don't interfere with my watching a recorded show I don't understand your fuss about them, if you have say HBO that one pays for you still get ADs before most movies/shows, the ADs are for other HBO shows but they are still ADs and without a DVR you have to watch them. The TiVo ADs are the most unobtrusive ADs system I have seen, like highway billboards, one can still drive and not look at the billboards. You pay for your newspaper and get tons of ADs so the pay and get no ADs is not that common, get use to it.

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