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Roamio and Mini update today (10/17/2013)

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    I totally agree profiles or nested folders are needed for better organization. Actually, for me, it would mostly remove the need for integrating the NPL as I would just move everything to the main TiVo and the others would simply be clients.
  2. NYHeel

    NYHeel Well-Known Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    It's just me but I find that profiles would work much better for a typical family. Plus it could be consistent on the season pass level as well. So you set a season pass in one profile and all recordings automatically go to that profile. It could be really easy and you can view the My Shows list and Season Pass Manager by profile.

    They can use the color buttons to switch between profiles. So you can have 4 profiles or maybe one button just toggles through them if you have more profiles allowed. Either way I think that a much better solution than custom folders which would take a long time to set up and manage. Of course both would be best.
  3. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

    Apr 29, 2008
    Profiles can be done well. Check out the way Netflix handles profiles. Not only is it a robust solution but a simple one to set up, use, and switch among.

    In fact, having profiles on TiVo that you could link to profiles on Netflix would be really cool.

    Personally I think profiles are the way of the future for family households with a single paying account but multiple users and even more devices.
  4. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Especially if the profiles sync with the Mini. That way you could put one in a bedroom and it could show specific recordings for that person. And they could view the same profile from the main Roamio.
  5. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

    Oct 31, 2007
    That would actually be very cool - a default profile for a client Mini.

    Folders vs. Profiles - TiVo would never do folders, it would take way too much minipulation on the consumers part to setup and use and it would take way too many new admin screens that TiVo would have to "get right" in order to make it usable.

    Profiles on the otherhand, is mechanism being leveraged by Netflix and others because it is easier to implement and understand at the consumer level. And can be implemented with modest changes to the current UI flow.

    So debate it all you want, one is probable in time the other isn't even remotely viable.
  6. Devx

    Devx New Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    +1 for profiles. Really though, any solution would be better than what we have. I could work with folders too if there was nesting support. Otherwise its just a more advanced replacement for the current show groupings we already have.

    An advantage of profiles that I haven't seen mentioned might also be the ability to put a password or pin on certain profiles. Sure, users should trust one another if they have access to the same box but parents may not want kids to see certain recordings or programming (even the titles) and that could be restricted behind a specific profile with a pin. No pin should be the default however. If all profiles required a pin it would become very cumbersome to manage.
  7. jmpage2

    jmpage2 Active Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    I think with the introduction of the Mini, profiles is a pretty logical thing that they will do. The question is when.
  8. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    Yes, but I am not a family. I am one person and one TiVo. That is why profiles would be of very little value to me.

    Custom folders, however, could benefit both single people and family units. And even if I were a family unit (of 2 which is most common for non-single), I would be almost as annoyed.... big whoop, now instead of having a flat list of hundreds of things, I would have half a flat list of hundreds of things.
  9. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

    Nov 12, 2004
    Totally agree. That's one of the main features that tivo could add that would have value for me.
  10. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    They said at Roamio's launch they were working on a "3 column" My Shows feature, which hasn't shown up so evidently it's been pushed back.

    If it's a hybrid of WTWN, that in a way is folder-ish, but I sure hope it's optional.
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I'm one person too, but for me it seems like custom folders would mean more work for me. And I would still have a very, very long My Shows list. With profiles I could have better management and also not have to deal with extremely large lists. Since the My Shows list would be split up between multiple profiles.

    With customs folders I would still have to navigate down many pages to find the folder I want. I typically want my list by the order it was recorded but with the list being super long I have to go back and forth between being sorted by name and being sorted by date. With a shorter list that profiles would give me I wouldn't need to switch back and forth. I could keep it sorted by date.
  12. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

    May 1, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    At this point, I don't know that there would be that much difference whether it's called profiles or custom folders, that is if there isn't a limit put on how many profiles you can create.

    Either one could be made to accomplish the same thing and either one would probably require drilling down into the menus to get to a specific recording.

    Does anyone think there is a difference between profiles and custom folders and what would they be?
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
  14. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    There is a HUGE difference. Profiles would presumably just be ONE directory level, not multiple. And the mechanism to switch between profiles is unlikely to be as simple as just moving to another directory (although that COULD be implemented that way). And I am guessing there would be no mechanism for moving programs from one to the other (although who knows).

    It is highly unlikely they will offer custom folders at all, much less nested. And just as unlikely the profiles would have nested options either. They do share similarities, depending on how they are implemented, though.
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
  16. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

    Feb 4, 2008
    I would expect profiles to be able to include the same program in different profiles, so a show could be in the Mom profile and Family profile at the same time. i would also expect that switching profiles would be made simple, perhaps a good use of the color code buttons that have little functionality. We will just have to wait and see.
  17. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

    Apr 29, 2008

    Fwiw Netflix profiles allows for extremely easy switching bt profiles as well as the ability to have to same things in multiple profiles.
  18. zordude

    zordude WDW Fan TCF Club

    Sep 23, 2003
    Nashua, NH
    That is the error I am getting (V112).

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