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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Oct 17, 2013.
I think you would be surprised at the number of multi-TiVo vs TiVo/mini households. None the less, multi TiVo configurations are supported and indeed offer functionality a mini does not. Many have also found it cheaper to keep an old Premiere than sell it and replace with a mini for additional screens in the home.
TivoMargret did say the integrated NPL was coming, I need to go find the post, I remember it referred to a facebook or twitter posting which I do not use.
With judicious use of folders, I do not find it unwieldy at all. I admit custom folders could be far easier to implement and placing items in folders that exist as well. But it does work.
You can create custom folders now via pytivo. Would be nice if it was much easier to use and movement of files among folders was easier.
TiVo doesn't care about multi-TiVo households. They are in the business of selling Roamio's and Minis as a whole home solution to cable MSOs. The stand-alone market is just a test bed. Again, cooperative scheduling is off the table and makes zero sense for them to put resources into it.
I think you'd be surprised that TiVo probably knows exactly how many multi-TiVo households are out there... and it's probably a very small number, maybe 5% or less of their subscriber base... not to mention that the % of them that have all TiVos on the latest platform (which would likely be required for a software update like this) even smaller.
Clearly with the large capacity of the Roamio and the room extension capabilities of the Mini, that's what TiVo is focused on.
I agree cooperative scheduling will never come from TiVo. It already exists via kmttg now anyway.
I was referring to an integrated My Shows list which is far easier to implement. This applies to households with mini's as well as some have multi tivos as well as minis. Its a supported configuration. Its not one or the other.
I think you might see profiles one day but a whole house My Shows lists doesn't make sense for TiVo at this point. Of all things they need to do (and finish), integrated My Shows would probably be last on the list.
I agree TiVo is looking forward not back and TiVo's forward plan is 1 DVR with Minis, that is where their resources will be spent. So I can see having user accounts/profiles as that makes lots of senses when you have several people using 1 DVR on several TVs, but I do not see consolidated to do lists or cooperative scheduling acrossed multiple DVRs.
I do use folders, but even with folders I have many dozens and dozens of them. And that is on top of the many dozens and dozens of recordings that aren't in a folder.
If I had a profile option I could, for instance, create a profile for my GF that would only have a bunch of lifetime recordings which would make them very easy to find. Which is very difficult right now. i would create another profile for cable news programs, another profile for local news, etc. All of this would make the management of the My Shows list so much easier.
I'm spending alot of time finding stuff which didn't used to be the case when my recordings were split up between two Elites and I used a two tuner Premiere for my GFs recordings. I knew I would have some issues when I dropped down to one cable card, but I didn't realize it would become this bad.
So they should just never make ANY other positive addition because they will screw it up? I would MUCH rather have custom folders than HD settings and misc menus.
I seriously doubt having custom folders would hurt performance.
It is crazy that a device that can record 6 things at once and store hundreds or thousands of shows has zero effective options for organizing them. I was amazed TiVo released the Roamio without custom folders and profiles (and BOTH are needed- one for multi-user and one for few/single user).
I think TiVo has really upped their game and done a good job delivering value. I think saying they are "barely holding it together" is both unfair and inaccurate.
They definitely had a malaise period during all the litigation, but they seem to have really gotten back into the game.
Co-op scheduling isn't going to happen - the new model is spoke and hub.
If we are voting, I would rather have profiles then custom folders.
Since TiVo has never focused on a lot of "customization" features, I also suspect profiles would fit better into their design model. But that is just my personal opinion.
Even thought it's just me, I can make more use of profiles than Custom folders. I figure profiles would do more to clean up everything. With custom folders I would still have many dozens of folders to go through in one list. With the profiles it will do much more to reduce the amount of content in the My Shows list for me. SInce there will be a separate list for each profile I create.
Not me. I would find profiles to be almost useless; especially if switching between them is not one simple function.
Not if they were nested like any other rational directory structure. Of course, there might be a limit in this case as to how many levels. Two might be enough, three seems very reasonable.
How "convenient"- sign out and sign in every time you want to see another single flat directory/folder...... blech
Done properly, custom nested folders is not only easy to use and manage, but replaces most of the need for profiles, because you can simply create a folder for each person. Recordings can be directed to a folder in the season passes or on demand and programs can be moved manually at any time. And if there were an option to list season passes by folder level, that would be like a profile too.
Anyone having any issues with recordings with the new update? I find some recordings getting cut or starting really late. Can anyone provide any insight...
Yes, it's called Windows Media Center with multiple Cablecard tuners.
I was thinking there would be no sign in/out process. Just a matter of selecting the profile you want. If you had to actually sign in every time then Profiles would be worthless for me.
I guess they could have a sign in option, but I would think most people living together like a family would have no need to have a password for everyone to sign in. If they can't trust each other to only use their own profile then they have some other issues they need to worry about.
Agreed, and if profiles could some how support suggestions, then even better.
I am so tired of all the children's programming in the suggestions list. My kids are getting older, but set a season pass for "The last Air Bender: the Legend of Kora" and my entire season pass directory is filled with children's programming.
That's why I had it turned off on the Premiere and it is getting pretty close on the Roamio as well,
Create Season Pass -> Choose a Profile -> specific user / global
Easy - one extra step and default would be global so it isn't intrusive for individuals who don't need it!
The Last Airbender is children's programming? What?
(Seriously, the original series is one of my favorite all time pieces of entertainment - alongside Firefly and West Wing. I knew sequels were coming but I hadn't kept track...and don't judge the series by the truly awful live action movie that was put out a couple of years ago...)
Oh, I loved the origional, it was fantastic!!! Kora is okay, but not nearly is good as Ang.
As for the movie, that dang M. Night Shyamalan can screw up a wet dream...
I was watching After Earth the other day and thought, "Wow, that really should have been a better movie. I wonder what happend" Then the credits: Directed by M. Night Shyamalan. That explains it!!!!!
Why does this guy still get work?